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 by Elvis
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https://www.therams.com/news/no-jitters ... -rams-game

“It’s just football": No jitters for Darrell Henderson in first Rams game

Stu Jackson
STAFF WRITER

Nerves? What nerves?

Last week’s preseason opener at Oakland was no different than any other football game for Rams rookie running back Darrell Henderson.

“It’s just football, it’s just a different level,” Henderson said. “You’ve still got to stay humble and stay focused. You’ve got to flush everything else and get your mind right.”

What he put on film in his L.A. debut offered both positives and things to build on, according to Rams coach Sean McVay.

Henderson’s six rush attempts for 13 yards led all Los Angeles players who recorded carries in the Rams' 14-3 loss to the Raiders. He also added one reception for a five-yard loss.

McVay said on Sunday the plan for Henderson going into the Raiders game was for Henderson to get his feet wet, though he also expects to gradually increase Henderson’s touches as the preseason progresses.

“I think he’s a really conscientious player, doesn’t really get fazed by things,” McVay said “But there were some, just little subtle things about the game (he needs to work on), whether it’s when you’re picking up internal pressure, not lining up in a position where the ball ricochets off your leg, you know. Just being consistent when we are in the dot (formation), lining up right behind the center, so those are things.”

Henderson’s feelings about the speed of the game lined up closely with McVay’s comments about his mentality.

Henderson credited reps received during the Rams’ joint practices with the Raiders last week, as well as going against Los Angeles’ own defense, for helping him adjust and know what to expect heading into the preseason opener.

“I wouldn’t say it was faster, because from practice, seeing the defense fly everywhere and going against the Raiders, I think it kind of has slowed down for me,” Henderson said. “Seeing those guys fly around at practice, it’s difficult, you know? That defense is something serious.”

Fellow running back Todd Gurley said he gives Henderson some in-game feedback on “little stuff.” However, with how well he thought Henderson played, Gurley said he didn’t need to say much.

“He did a pretty good job,” said Gurley, who rested against Oakland on Saturday but still traveled with the team and was on the sidelines. “Obviously, a couple tough runs. There wasn’t too much there, but the times he had two good runs, there’s nothing really to tell him.”

Chosen with the 70thoverall pick in the third round of this year’s NFL Draft, Henderson was brought in as a dynamic playmaker for an already-explosive Rams offense.

Unsurprisingly, it hasn’t taken long for him to have the right mindset as he gets more chances to show what he’s capable of.

“Getting my first NFL game out of the way, I’m only going to get better from here,” Henderson said. “I’m looking forward to playing good against the Cowboys (this week) and seeing my former teammate (running back Tony Pollard). Hopefully it will be a good night for the both of us.”

 by aeneas1
5 days ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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PARAM wrote:Robert Quinn had cancer...….well not exactly cancer but a tumor, which is like cancer, a foreign growth in the body......and he played with it. So if somebody contracts cancer, there's no reason to believe he can't play with it. And play well with it. After all Quinn averaged 13.3 sacks per year with that tumor. Plus the Rams knew he had it when they drafted him.

the hall of fame is filled with guys who had joint surgery, and by extension an "arthritic component", 95% of hall of famers played into their 30s, while 78% of halll of fame rb played into their 30s.

 by /zn/
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aeneas1 wrote:the hall of fame is filled with guys who had joint surgery, and by extension an "arthritic component", 95% of hall of famers played into their 30s, while 78% of halll of fame rb played into their 30s.


Did they have flare-ups that sidelined them with pain and swelling? Which is a tendency of osteoarthritis. If that doesn't happen then being mildly arthritic is never an issue, at least in terms of playing football. If that does happen with the player in question, then it is something that has to be managed...and even then they can still play.

McVay has directly said TG is having a great summer, with no setbacks. But what would a setback BE? Obviously that flare-up thing...which is the real issue.

 by aeneas1
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/zn/ wrote:Did they have flare-ups that sidelined them with pain and swelling?

from what i understand no pro football hall of famer who suffered a joint injury ever had to come out of a game, miss a game, or miss practice due to pain, swelling, or inflammation, in fact i think that's what made them hall of famers.

in other news, your constant webmd parroting became old months ago, now it's just trolling, forum members get what's going on.

 by dieterbrock
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After Fisher took Gurley off the shelf in his rookie year, TG started 57 games straight. Any other RB in the league able to say something like that?
It’s like moths to a flame. Negative news always sells

 by max
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dieterbrock wrote:After Fisher took Gurley off the shelf in his rookie year, TG started 57 games straight. Any other RB in the league able to say something like that?
It’s like moths to a flame. Negative news always sells


And what many people disregard is how overworked Gurley was in the first half of 2018. I showed it graphically, but it didn’t seem to register with people who keep harping on how his arthritic knee flared up and that’s the big discriminator.

What needs to be considered is that Gurley got banged up badly in the opener against Oakland. But he continued to get 201 touches in the first 8 games, more than 30 more than the next highest player. That was a recipe for breaking down ANY RB, not just a guy with an arthritic component.

 by /zn/
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max wrote:And what many people disregard is how overworked Gurley was in the first half of 2018. I showed it graphically, but it didn’t seem to register with people who keep harping on how his arthritic knee flared up and that’s the big discriminator.

What needs to be considered is that Gurley got banged up badly in the opener against Oakland. But he continued to get 201 touches in the first 8 games, more than 30 more than the next highest player. That was a recipe for breaking down ANY RB, not just a guy with an arthritic component.


Here's the thing though. He has an arthritic knee. He was overused. His knee flared up--as arthritic knees can.

And we're supposed to see those 3 things as unrelated?

Coincidentally, an arthritic knee flares up, in a way arthritic knees can, and that was due either to hits in the Phil game or overuse or both---and both can cause an arthritic knee to flare up---BUT that has nothing to do with arthritis in a surgical knee?

I promise you, no one who sees those things as inevitably related is neglecting anything Max. For example it is noteworthy that the way to handle this and reduce episodes where the knee flares up is not only targetted training (strengthening muscles around the knee. among other things) but also load management. The number of carries is naturally and of course directly related to all of this.

 by max
4 days ago
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/zn/ wrote:Here's the thing though. He has an arthritic knee. He was overused. His knee flared up--as arthritic knees can.

And we're supposed to see those 3 things as unrelated?

Coincidentally, an arthritic knee flares up, in a way arthritic knees can, and that was due either to hits in the Phil game or overuse or both---and both can cause an arthritic knee to flare up---BUT that has nothing to do with arthritis in a surgical knee?

I promise you, no one who sees those things as inevitably related is neglecting anything Max. For example it is noteworthy that the way to handle this and reduce episodes where the knee flares up is not only targetted training (strengthening muscles around the knee. among other things) but also load management. The number of carries is naturally and of course directly related to all of this.


The guy was way overused after banging up his knee so badly in week 1 that he (sarcastically) said he wanted to give the Rams their money back. So what happens? He touches the ball 201 times in the first 8 weeks. Its reasonable to assume that he was playing hurt the whole time. This is the same guy who played with 2 sprained ankles in HS and never complained.

How many RB have had that happen to them? Got hurt in week one and then got overworked the next 7 games? This is all about context. Its like they took a sledge hammer to his knee and it swelled up and people are screaming ARTHRITIS!!!

I'm just not getting locked into the arthritis thing. My bet is that unless he gets an unlucky injury, Gurley will play well all year, with a normal workload, and none of this flare up stuff will be an issue.

 by /zn/
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max wrote:The guy was way overused after banging up his knee so badly in week 1 that he (sarcastically) said he wanted to give the Rams their money back. So what happens? He touches the ball 201 times in the first 8 weeks. Its reasonable to assume that he was playing hurt the whole time. This is the same guy who played with 2 sprained ankles in HS and never complained.

How many RB have had that happen to them? Got hurt in week one and then got overworked the next 7 games? This is all about context. Its like they took a sledge hammer to his knee and it swelled up and people are screaming ARTHRITIS!!!

I'm just not getting locked into the arthritis thing. My bet is that unless he gets an unlucky injury, Gurley will play well all year, with a normal workload, and none of this flare up stuff will be an issue.


That's one scenario/theory.

Another--which I subscribe to, and which I think accounts for everything--is that he has an arthritic knee and did in 2018 and probably before. It flared up in game 1, and as happens with flare-ups like that, calmed down by game 3. He then ran well (the underlying arthritic knee still there but not hampering him) until a combination of getting banged up in the PHil game and excessive use caused it to flare up again.

So the plan in 2019 is to avoid those flare-ups by emphasizing training plus load management.

You can run with an arthritic knee if you do not aggravate things and get the kind of flare-up we saw in Sept and December. In between flare-ups he is fine, which is unsurprising---again you can run with an arthritic knee provided you don't end up in a pain/swelling flare-up episode.

They are betting that load management handles that. And it can, that's not naive idealism.

Gaines straight-out said he has an arthritic knee, and he said that about a back who got sidelined with that flare-up episode in December. I don't think those things are unrelated.

So that's the scenario/theory I think explains the most about all this.

 by aeneas1
4 days ago
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/zn/ wrote:Gaines straight-out said he has an arthritic knee...

no, gaines straight-out said:

"Everybody knew when Todd came out of Georgia that there would be some kind of arthritic component to his knee, which is part of every surgery whether it's a shoulder, a knee, an ankle."

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