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 by Hacksaw
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Unf'n believable. Kershaw throws 6 pitches and kills us back to back. Robert's should have just rolled Maeda out and saved Clayton for StL. He didn't look ready...
So disapointed!!!!

 by PARAM
4 years 6 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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Hacksaw wrote:Unf'n believable. Kershaw throws 6 pitches and kills us back to back. Robert's should have just rolled Maeda out and saved Clayton for StL. He didn't look ready...
So disapointed!!!!


Not only that but was there a good reason he rolled with Joe Kelly in the 10th instead of Jansen? Particularly when he walked Eaton and gave up the double to Rendon? I know Jansen hasn't been as reliable as in the past but don't you have to live or die with your best? He had no problem bringing in Kershaw. The four hitters who came up to start the 10th were 4 for 14 against Kelly and 0 for 12 against Jansen (collectively).

However, in defense of Roberts, it's extremely difficult to get to the World Series 3 consecutive years. You have to have a good team AND you have to have a lot of things (beyond your control) go right. Perhaps Kershaw giving up back to back jacks discombobulated Roberts thinking. But getting to 3 straight is next to impossible if you don't win the WS at least once in the first two years.

 by Flash
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Houston
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PARAM wrote:Not only that but was there a good reason he rolled with Joe Kelly in the 10th instead of Jansen? Particularly when he walked Eaton and gave up the double to Rendon? I know Jansen hasn't been as reliable as in the past but don't you have to live or die with your best? He had no problem bringing in Kershaw.


I questioned the strategy of "piggy backing" with Kershaw. Clayton has been crushed lately his first inning.

This loss is on the manager and management if they were in on the game planning.

 by PARAM
4 years 6 months ago
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Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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Here's the article second guessing Roberts. And though second guessing is easier than finding a hooker in Las Vegas, many good points are made. My question for Dodger fans is this.....does Roberts get fired? If not, why not?

 by snackdaddy
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Merced California
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PARAM wrote:Here's the article second guessing Roberts. And though second guessing is easier than finding a hooker in Las Vegas, many good points are made. My question for Dodger fans is this.....does Roberts get fired? If not, why not?


I'm as pissed as any other Dodger fan. The only good thing we can say is we won't have to hear about 3 world series losses in a row.

Getting back to Roberts, I don't know. Is he the reason for the 106 wins or the reason for blowing the big games? Kershaw has been having trouble getting off to good starts. And its clear he isn't the same Kershaw from the past. He's probably a pitcher who is a little better than average as a starter these days.

That pitch to Soto was a meatball. So why would Roberts think he was the best bullpen option? And Kelly has struggled all year. Its amazing we didn't see Jansen in an elimination game. He had a left handed specialist in Kolarek. Two right handed guys in Maeda and Baez. Maeda is the only one who saw action. Instead, he puts in Kelly who struggled all year. It did work for an inning. When he threw nothing but breaking balls. But I was suprised to see him out there for another. Two innings is not his game. And he still had Baez and Jansen available. Neither of them saw action.

This one stings. The Dodgers are known for great regular seasons but playoff chokers. The amount of talent they have sooner or later they should have won something. Maybe its time for a change at manager. But if you do that, who is the best option? Who would be better?

 by snackdaddy
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Merced California
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Getting back to my venting, the more I think about it the more I question if Roberts deserves to stay as manager. Kolarek is a left handed specialist. He was in Soto's head. Kershaw should have been yanked after Rendon's home run. Soto had no clue against Kolerek. I'm sure he was pretty happy to see Kershaw instead.

It was a risk to put Kelly out there in the 9th they way he's struggled most the season. It worked so why tempt fate leaving a one inning guy out there for another inning? You thank your lucky stars and go with Baez in the 10th. Right handers are .172 against him.

Then you have Jansen. Instead, when its clear things are falling apart he leaves Kelly in there to finish the mess he started. Its mind boggling there at the end when you don't see guys like Kolerek for Soto, Baez and/or Jansen for the right handed heavy lineup the National use. Instead you leave a guy out there for two innings. A guy who has been struggling more often than not.

Probably the worst stretch of managerial decisions we've seen in playoff baseball in quite a while. Head scratchers when your top relievers, guys you've leaned on all year, don't see any action at all in an extra inning game.

Yes, I'm agreeing this one was on Roberts. Its quite possible he's just done so well over the years because of the talent he was given. Its possible he's the reason they keep losing in the playoffs. I'm leaning towards rolling the dice with another manager. Because its possible a better manager can maneuver his way through a tight game in an elimination spot.

 by Hacksaw
4 years 6 months ago
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Roberts over manages a lot.

 by rams74
4 years 6 months ago
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Italy   Glendale, Arizona
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snackdaddy wrote:It was a risk to put Kelly out there in the 9th they way he's struggled most the season. It worked so why tempt fate leaving a one inning guy out there for another inning?


Yes, it was a big risk to run Kelly out there in the 9th. When I saw that, I said out loud, "Joe Kelly?!?" My wife asked, "Who is Joe Kelly?" I responded, "The losing pitcher."

Surprised he got through the 9th, I certainly would have thanked my lucky stars and moved on to Jansen in the 10th. I can almost (almost) understand Roberts' desire to go with Kershaw, but I could see no earthly reason why you'd stick with Kelly in the 10th.

But even with all the focus on the failure of the bullpen, the big hitters in the Dodgers lineup (with the exception of Turner and Muncy) were MIA. Surely that's at least as big a reason for losing this series as the pitching staff.

 by Elvis
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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I'm a fair weather fan at best and still last night's game was painful.

Reminded me a little of the Rams game: If that ball had gone out in the bottom of the ninth (like GZ's kick), what a different story today would be but that's not how these things work...

 by dieterbrock
4 years 6 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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Sorry Dodger fans, its an unfair game.
I hate to admit this, but after Kendrick hit in to the double play to end the top of the 6th I changed the channel. I checked back and saw that Dodgers didnt score and watched the top of the 7th. When Kershaw struck out Eaton, I was done. Turned it off for good.

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