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Would you sign Colin Kaepernick?

Yes, if the coaching staff believed him to be the best available option to back-up Jared Goff.
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Yes. It would make an important statement, even if his skill level is questionable at this point.
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No. Even if he is arguably the best option, the attention/distraction he'd bring to the team would override the benefit.
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No. Even if he is arguably the best option, I don't like him or his approach, and would not want him on my team.
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No. I don't care about his politics or persona. I simply don't believe a QB who has been idle for years could succeed.
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 by AvengerRam
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I recognize this has the potential to be a real pot-stirrer, but it is topical, so...

The Rams currently don't have an experienced back-up QB.

Colin Kaepernick wants a job.

Consider the poll options carefully, as they are deliberately specific.

 by St. Loser Fan
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I've said before and I'll say it again: he's still at least worth a look as a number 2 or 3 QB. Especially backing up a young QB. Doing things like holding the tablet, wearing the headset and being in that small group on the sideline surrounding the starter when the defense is on the field.

I don't think he fits the Rams though. Maybe the San Diego Chargers?

But if Kaepernick is demanding the starting spot somewhere, then no.

 by Elvis
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I'd definitely side with the coaches. If they wanted him, yes.

You might want to add another yes option. We have "no" for non-football reasons. Maybe there should be a "yes" for non-football reasons though not sure we have any members who would choose it...

 by snackdaddy
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I don't believe he's a viable option anymore. Couple that with the distractions, I just don't see any upside.

 by AvengerRam
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Elvis wrote:I'd definitely side with the coaches. If they wanted him, yes.

You might want to add another yes option. We have "no" for non-football reasons. Maybe there should be a "yes" for non-football reasons though not sure we have any members who would choose it...

Done!

(Note that, when I added the option, it apparently re-set the vote count so, if you voted early, you may need to vote again.)

 by Dick84
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If the coaches thought he was the best option? Of course.

Now, the reality is much more complex. While I fully believe Kap isn’t playing in the NFL *primarily* because of politics... fit and his salary demands are things that complicate the issue.
That’s one bummer of this situation... too many people will look at him being on an NFL roster as a binary choice.

 by safer
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I've thought about this many times before George Floyd was murdered.
As an older white guy, I'm sure there is still much for me to learn about discrimination and the un level playing field in the U.S.
WHILE AT WORK he chose to use his job to address his platform (and time has ultimately proven him correct about how many abuses there continue to be.) I wish he would have used his fame to voice his opinions in a different way...............but would any other venue have created the attention his did?
The NFL IS a business..........and when one chooses to mix politics with that, you come under a different type of scrutiny. For example, many, many conservative actors are passed over for Hollywood roles, and ESPN has terminated those who have mixed politics with their 100% sports venue. Whether any of this is fair is a totally strong question. But if any of us took a completely controversial stance (openly disrespecting our flag) on something, while we were AT work, we would suffer the same consequences. Putting team first, I would not take on any player whose signing would dominate any and all pressers, after game interviews, etc. Ok, IF we did sign him...........what would be the claims if Goff is still starting? Would we have to hear about race being a factor in that too? Look at Jim Brown. I listen to every word of his I can, because he is a grounded, proven, humanitarian who has experienced it all. What a crazy assed world we live in. Sadly so.

 by Dick84
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safer wrote:I've thought about this many times before George Floyd was murdered.
As an older white guy, I'm sure there is still much for me to learn about discrimination and the un level playing field in the U.S.
WHILE AT WORK he chose to use his job to address his platform (and time has ultimately proven him correct about how many abuses there continue to be.) I wish he would have used his fame to voice his opinions in a different way...............but would any other venue have created the attention his did?
The NFL IS a business..........and when one chooses to mix politics with that, you come under a different type of scrutiny. For example, many, many conservative actors are passed over for Hollywood roles, and ESPN has terminated those who have mixed politics with their 100% sports venue. Whether any of this is fair is a totally strong question. But if any of us took a completely controversial stance (openly disrespecting our flag) on something, while we were AT work, we would suffer the same consequences. Putting team first, I would not take on any player whose signing would dominate any and all pressers, after game interviews, etc. Ok, IF we did sign him...........what would be the claims if Goff is still starting? Would we have to hear about race being a factor in that too? Look at Jim Brown. I listen to every word of his I can, because he is a grounded, proven, humanitarian who has experienced it all. What a crazy assed world we live in. Sadly so.


The key to all of this statement, to me, is this.. .
"openly disrespecting our flag"

It just shows that you've chosen that *interpretation* of the action over listening to what they were saying/protesting.

If you think it was about "disrespecting" the flag? Of course you'll have, at best, mixed feelings.

If you listen to them and understand it's about not feeling that people are equally represented under that flag, you might feel differently.

It's something that a lot of Americans are stuck on.

If you haven't read about Nate Boyer and Kap, I think it's worth your time.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-s ... story.html

 by Elvis
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safer wrote:(openly disrespecting our flag)


This part is highly debatable and this is not the thread for that debate. We do have one in General Discussion though:

viewtopic.php?p=202922#p202938

 by moklerman
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AvengerRam wrote:I recognize this has the potential to be a real pot-stirrer, but it is topical, so...

The Rams currently don't have an experienced back-up QB.

Colin Kaepernick wants a job.

Consider the poll options carefully, as they are deliberately specific.
Says who? He walked away from his 49ers contract. Reportedly refused potential backup roles. Priced himself out of the AAF and XFL. Won't consider the CFL.

If he stays unemployed, the memory of his greatness grows. If he comes back and stinks, he throws it all away.

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