by PARAM 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 12244 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #1 TOPIC AUTHOR After reading some comments about how much money the Rams gave Austin Blythe, I was curious about the other options. Here's two lists of free agents. One is older, experienced guys. The first is PFF actual list of the top 90 available. Of course these lists are those who are still available. If we missed out on someone better than Blythe (or Whitworth) who signed elsewhere (other than Castanzo), I don't know who that was. Here's a list of the top 90 available as of 3/31LINKI included comments on some of the players because I thought, "this is what's available????"1. QB CAM NEWTONPer ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Panthers are expected to release Newton.2. QB JAMEIS WINSTON3. EDGE JADEVEON CLOWNEY4. CB LOGAN RYAN5. DL MIKE DANIELS6. CB PRINCE AMUKAMARA7. LT JASON PETERS8. EDGE EVERSON GRIFFEN9. TE DELANIE WALKER10. QB JOE FLACCO11. EDGE CAMERON WAKE12. S DAMARIOUS RANDALL13. DL DAMON HARRISON14. DL TIMMY JERNIGAN15. CB BRANDON CARR16. S TAVON WILSON17. S ERIC REID18. CB TRAMON WILLIAMSIt’s pretty crazy that 36-year-old Tramon Williams was the 11th highest-graded cornerback in coverage this past season and the eighth-most valuable cornerback in the NFL. He gave a handful of 40-yard plays that he wishes he had back, but in his 18 games played he allowed under 45 yards in coverage in 13 and allowed one catch or fewer in eight. He turns 37 this week which will scare a lot of teams away, but he’s worth pursuing to fill a short-term need.19. CB JOHNATHAN JOSEPHWhile he was far from elite and clearly lost a step, it was pretty remarkable to see Johnathan Joseph still force 11 pass breakups. All-in-all, Joseph allowed 627 yards in coverage on his 427 coverage snaps which led to him posting a 65.0 receiving grade – his second-lowest since 2009. Though in the year prior, Joseph was among the 10 highest graded cornerbacks in the league. He’s on a quest for a ring, and any team that has a chance at one in 2020-21 in need of outside help should consider Joseph on a one-year deal.20. OT DEMAR DOTSONConsidering he came into the NFL as an undrafted free agent, Demar Dotson has had an incredibly successful career. He’s been consistently average to slightly above average starting at right tackle for the Buccaneers and has been among the 15 most valuable tackles in the league since his 2012 season when he was named the starter. The last two years though, Dotson’s age has started to show as he has posted two of his lowest-graded seasons since 2013. He’ll turn 35 next season, so he fits more of a short-term need for perhaps a contending team.21. OT CORDY GLENNIn the first five seasons of his NFL career from 2012 to 2016, Cordy Glenn was one of the top tackles in the league. In fact, he was actually the 14th most valuable tackle in PFF WAR in that span. He posted 80.0-plus pass-block grades from 2013 to 2016 and was a solid run-blocker too. Though he’s experienced a handful of injuries the last few seasons and hasn’t been the same player. He posted a career-low overall grade of 67.4 in 2017, was traded to the Bengals and went on to post two of his worst seasons in the Queen City. At 30-years-old and with the injury baggage, Glenn is a bit of a risk.22. LB NIGEL BRADHAM23. S JAVIEN ELLIOTTElliott didn’t give up many explosive plays, but he did surrender a catch rate over 80% in his slot role and made only three plays on the ball. 24. S TONY JEFFERSON25. S RESHAD JONES26. RB DEVONTA FREEMANDevonta Freeman produced the worst PFF grade among running backs in 2019 while on the fifth-largest contract. Freeman was just 29th in WAR this past year while playing the 10th most snaps among running backs. In simplest terms, he got more opportunities to produce a higher amount and failed to match.27. WR TAYLOR GABRIEL28. CB DRE KIRKPATRICK29. CB TRAMAINE BROCK30. OL RON LEARYLeary’s grade has dropped in each of the four past NFL seasons, falling from 78.3 in 2016 to 58.4 in 2019. The 30-year-old NFL veteran did, however, earn a 74.7 PFF pass-blocking grade alongside a 52.6 PFF run-blocking grade in 2019. He’s a quality depth piece that should come at depth-player pricing on the open market. 31. CB AQIB TALIB32. EDGE MARKUS GOLDENGolden (29) played a career-high 916 defensive snaps with the Giants in 2019 and earned just a 60.3 PFF grade in the process. He totaled just 64 pressures across his 509 pass-rushing snaps and earned only a 63.0 PFF pass-rushing grade.33. OL JOSH KLINEIn Kline’s lone season with Minnesota (2019), he earned a 65.1 overall grade that ranked outside the top-50 qualifying interior offensive linemen in the NFL. The 30-year-old veteran is a high-floor producer in pass protection, but he’s a stop-gap solution with little upside in the run game at best.34. EDGE PERNELL MCPHEEPernell McPhee has had a brutal injury history, leading to a limited role over the last few years. 35. OL MIKE PERSONPerson (31) is an older interior offensive lineman that played over 1,000 offensive snaps for the 49ers in 2018 and 2019. Among the 98 guards with at least 400 offensive snaps played in 2019, Person ranked tied for 77th in overall grade (61.8) and 104th in PFF pass-blocking grade (60.3).36. WR RASHARD HIGGINS37. LB WESLEY WOODYARDWoodyard played just 416 defensive snaps and earned one of the lowest single-season PFF grades (54.0) of his career in 2019. 38. EDGE JABAAL SHEARD39. EDGE VINNY CURRYThirty-one-year-old Vinny Curry had a career year in 2019 as a pass-rusher, posting an 81.7 pass-rush grade ranking 12th at his position and pressure rate that tied for fourth with J.J. Watt at 16.9%. 40. S CLAYTON GEATHERS41. EDGE EZEKIEL ANSAHIn his one season away from Detroit with Seattle in 2019, Ezekiel Ansah had the worst season of his career. He had never recorded an overall grade lower than 65.0 in his six seasons with the Lions and owned a 56.0 overall grade with the Seahawks, generating a career-low pressure rate under 9%. 42. EDGE CLAY MATTHEWSThe Rams signed Matthews to a two-year, $9.25 million deal last offseason to start opposite Dante Fowler Jr. at edge, and that is what he did. Unfortunately for Los Angeles, the result was the worst season in Matthews' career. He earned just a 54.2 overall grade on the year, struggling in run defense and missing 12 tackles in 44 tackling opportunities. The pass-rushing numbers don't look bad at first glance — 40 pressures in 280 pass-rushing snaps — but he benefitted from attention placed on his teammates, namely Aaron Donald. 24 of those 40 pressures for Matthews were designated as cleanup or unblocked opportunities. All of that led to Matthews being expendable. The Rams will look to fill his snaps with someone else in 2020.43. EDGE TERRELL SUGGS44. RB CARLOS HYDECarlos Hyde had the best season as a ball-carrier yet in 2019, producing the 11th best rushing grade at his position at 77.2. Though the most important trait for a running back to carry relies in the receiving game and Hyde has been largely ineffective in that area all throughout his career. 45. OL JORDAN MILLS46. LB DARRON LEE47. CB DARYL WORLEY48. CB NEVIN LAWSON49. CB ROSS COCKRELL50. TE DAVID MORGAN51. QB BLAKE BORTLES52. CB BASHAUD BREELAND53. S ANTOINE BETHEA54. WR TED GINN JR. 55. WR PAUL RICHARDSON JR. 56. OT KELVIN BEACHUM57. S JAHLEEL ADDAE58. CB VERNON HARGREAVES III59. CB TRUMAINE JOHNSON60. CB PJ WILLIAMS61. WR JOSH GORDON62. OG JOHN MILLER63. DI MARCELL DAREUS64. DI SHELDON DAY65. LB MARK BARRON66. OL JAMES HURST67. DI MARGUS HUNT68. S MORGAN BURNETT69. WR JARON BROWN70. WR CHESTER ROGERS71. RB CHRIS THOMPSON72. OT JASON SPRIGGS73. RB LAMAR MILLER74. RB LESEAN MCCOY75. DI ANTHONY CHICKILLO76. WR JOHNNY HOLTON77. CB B.W. WEBB78. TE LUKE STOCKER79. S TEDRIC THOMPSON80. LB ALEC OGLETREE82. DI COREY LIUGET82. EDGE KAREEM MARTIN83. OL CAM ERVING84. LB JAKE RYAN85. CB MORRIS CLAIBORNE86. EDGE KAMALEI CORREA87. EDGE BENSON MAYOWA88. DI ADAM GOTSIS89. CB CYRUS JONES90. S JOHNSON BADEMOSICould we have done better than Austin Blythe @ 3 mil or Andrew Whitworth @ 10 mil per? Possibly. Could we have done worse? Without a doubt. LINKThe Graybeards are back.For the sixth year, our front office (population: 1) has exhaustively combed through the NFL database of unattached free agents to build a starting roster comprised of players still available to all 32 teams.The goal of the Graybeards is the same as it ever was: build a team that can reasonably compete in (affects Troy Aikman accent) OUR LEAGUE. The goal is in our motto: Just Win Sometimes, Baby. If we can field an 8-8 squad, our team headquarters will throw a rager of biblical proportions on New Year's Eve.And you know what? I really think our 2020 squad can do it. Let's dig in.Quarterback:Cam Newton (31)Jameis Winston (26)Joe Flacco (35Running back:Devonta Freeman (28)Carlos Hyde (29)Lamar Miller (29)Frank Gore (37)Fullback:Roosevelt Nix (29)Wide Receiver:Antonio Brown (32)Taylor Gabriel (29)Rashard Higgins (25)Ted Ginn (35)Josh Gordon (29)Tight End:Delanie Walker (36)Luke Stocker (32)Offensive line:LT Jason Peters (38)LG Ronald Leary (31)C A.Q. Shipley (34)RG Josh Kline (30)RT Demar Dotson (34)EDGE DEFENDERJadeveon Clowney (27)Everson Griffen (32)Cameron Wake (38)Clay Matthews (34)INTERIOR D-LINEMike Daniels (31)Damon Harrison (31)Timmy Jernigan (27)Margus Hunt (33)LINEBACKERNigel Bradham (30)Alec Ogletree (28)Darron Lee (25)CORNERBACKPrince Amukamara (31)Brandon Carr (34)Logan Ryan (29)Tramon Williams (37)SAFETYDamarious Randall (28)Tavon Wilson (30)Eric Reid (28)Eric Berry (31)KICKERAdam Vinatieri (47) Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 38452 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #2 RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 9657 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #3 A guy like Clowney would sure be nice when you have a DL with Aaron Donald. But alas, we know it ain't possible. I like Clowney's talent, but he's not Von Miller/Kalil Mack level. Sometimes he disappears for stretches. I don't think I'd pay that much for him. by Haden 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #4 Clowney has never had a 10 sack season I believe. Grossly over-rated. Pass. by PARAM 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 12244 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #5 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:I like Clowney's talent, but he's not Von Miller/Kalil Mack level. Sometimes he disappears for stretches. I don't think I'd pay that much for him.It seems 32 NFL teams feel the same way as you SnackHaden wrote:Clowney has never had a 10 sack season I believe. Grossly over-rated. Pass.Don't know if I agree with that or not, but he's played just one 16 game season in his career (6 years: 4 games, 13, 14, 16, 15, 13). Sacks? (0, 4.5, 6, 9.5, 9 and 3). There are other things like TFL (3, 8, 16, 21, 16, 7) and QB hits (0, 8, 17, 21, 21, 13), though some fans don't value that because "it's hard to interpret their impact", despite most experts believing there is a significant impact. And some that don't make the stat sheet like disrupting the blocking scheme allowing others to make a play. Compare them to Donald (or Chandler Jones, Cam Jordan, Mack, etc) and they look pedestrian.Donald (same 6 year career)Sacks: 9, 11, 8, 11, 21.5, 12.5TFL: 18, 22, 17, 15, 25, 20QB Hits: 13, 37, 31, 27, 41, 24Still, I have to wonder how Clowney might produce if he played next to AD? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 5 posts Apr 19 2024
by Elvis 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 38452 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #2 RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 9657 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #3 A guy like Clowney would sure be nice when you have a DL with Aaron Donald. But alas, we know it ain't possible. I like Clowney's talent, but he's not Von Miller/Kalil Mack level. Sometimes he disappears for stretches. I don't think I'd pay that much for him. by Haden 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #4 Clowney has never had a 10 sack season I believe. Grossly over-rated. Pass. by PARAM 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 12244 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #5 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:I like Clowney's talent, but he's not Von Miller/Kalil Mack level. Sometimes he disappears for stretches. I don't think I'd pay that much for him.It seems 32 NFL teams feel the same way as you SnackHaden wrote:Clowney has never had a 10 sack season I believe. Grossly over-rated. Pass.Don't know if I agree with that or not, but he's played just one 16 game season in his career (6 years: 4 games, 13, 14, 16, 15, 13). Sacks? (0, 4.5, 6, 9.5, 9 and 3). There are other things like TFL (3, 8, 16, 21, 16, 7) and QB hits (0, 8, 17, 21, 21, 13), though some fans don't value that because "it's hard to interpret their impact", despite most experts believing there is a significant impact. And some that don't make the stat sheet like disrupting the blocking scheme allowing others to make a play. Compare them to Donald (or Chandler Jones, Cam Jordan, Mack, etc) and they look pedestrian.Donald (same 6 year career)Sacks: 9, 11, 8, 11, 21.5, 12.5TFL: 18, 22, 17, 15, 25, 20QB Hits: 13, 37, 31, 27, 41, 24Still, I have to wonder how Clowney might produce if he played next to AD? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 5 posts Apr 19 2024
by snackdaddy 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 9657 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #3 A guy like Clowney would sure be nice when you have a DL with Aaron Donald. But alas, we know it ain't possible. I like Clowney's talent, but he's not Von Miller/Kalil Mack level. Sometimes he disappears for stretches. I don't think I'd pay that much for him. by Haden 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #4 Clowney has never had a 10 sack season I believe. Grossly over-rated. Pass. by PARAM 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 12244 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #5 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:I like Clowney's talent, but he's not Von Miller/Kalil Mack level. Sometimes he disappears for stretches. I don't think I'd pay that much for him.It seems 32 NFL teams feel the same way as you SnackHaden wrote:Clowney has never had a 10 sack season I believe. Grossly over-rated. Pass.Don't know if I agree with that or not, but he's played just one 16 game season in his career (6 years: 4 games, 13, 14, 16, 15, 13). Sacks? (0, 4.5, 6, 9.5, 9 and 3). There are other things like TFL (3, 8, 16, 21, 16, 7) and QB hits (0, 8, 17, 21, 21, 13), though some fans don't value that because "it's hard to interpret their impact", despite most experts believing there is a significant impact. And some that don't make the stat sheet like disrupting the blocking scheme allowing others to make a play. Compare them to Donald (or Chandler Jones, Cam Jordan, Mack, etc) and they look pedestrian.Donald (same 6 year career)Sacks: 9, 11, 8, 11, 21.5, 12.5TFL: 18, 22, 17, 15, 25, 20QB Hits: 13, 37, 31, 27, 41, 24Still, I have to wonder how Clowney might produce if he played next to AD? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 5 posts Apr 19 2024
by Haden 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #4 Clowney has never had a 10 sack season I believe. Grossly over-rated. Pass. by PARAM 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 12244 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #5 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:I like Clowney's talent, but he's not Von Miller/Kalil Mack level. Sometimes he disappears for stretches. I don't think I'd pay that much for him.It seems 32 NFL teams feel the same way as you SnackHaden wrote:Clowney has never had a 10 sack season I believe. Grossly over-rated. Pass.Don't know if I agree with that or not, but he's played just one 16 game season in his career (6 years: 4 games, 13, 14, 16, 15, 13). Sacks? (0, 4.5, 6, 9.5, 9 and 3). There are other things like TFL (3, 8, 16, 21, 16, 7) and QB hits (0, 8, 17, 21, 21, 13), though some fans don't value that because "it's hard to interpret their impact", despite most experts believing there is a significant impact. And some that don't make the stat sheet like disrupting the blocking scheme allowing others to make a play. Compare them to Donald (or Chandler Jones, Cam Jordan, Mack, etc) and they look pedestrian.Donald (same 6 year career)Sacks: 9, 11, 8, 11, 21.5, 12.5TFL: 18, 22, 17, 15, 25, 20QB Hits: 13, 37, 31, 27, 41, 24Still, I have to wonder how Clowney might produce if he played next to AD? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 5 posts Apr 19 2024
by PARAM 4 years 2 weeks ago Total posts: 12244 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Top 90 avail FA + FA AllStar roster POST #5 TOPIC AUTHOR snackdaddy wrote:I like Clowney's talent, but he's not Von Miller/Kalil Mack level. Sometimes he disappears for stretches. I don't think I'd pay that much for him.It seems 32 NFL teams feel the same way as you SnackHaden wrote:Clowney has never had a 10 sack season I believe. Grossly over-rated. Pass.Don't know if I agree with that or not, but he's played just one 16 game season in his career (6 years: 4 games, 13, 14, 16, 15, 13). Sacks? (0, 4.5, 6, 9.5, 9 and 3). There are other things like TFL (3, 8, 16, 21, 16, 7) and QB hits (0, 8, 17, 21, 21, 13), though some fans don't value that because "it's hard to interpret their impact", despite most experts believing there is a significant impact. And some that don't make the stat sheet like disrupting the blocking scheme allowing others to make a play. Compare them to Donald (or Chandler Jones, Cam Jordan, Mack, etc) and they look pedestrian.Donald (same 6 year career)Sacks: 9, 11, 8, 11, 21.5, 12.5TFL: 18, 22, 17, 15, 25, 20QB Hits: 13, 37, 31, 27, 41, 24Still, I have to wonder how Clowney might produce if he played next to AD? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business