by ramsrams 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1176 Joined: Feb 06 2016 Mississauga, ON Pro Bowl BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #11 Last edited by ramsrams on Nov 10 2019, edited 2 times in total. R4L, dieterbrock, CanuckRightWinger liked this post It was just like they came out of the bye, not talking defense here, and said “What, me worry?” Alfred Neuman stuff.Kinda gettin tired of that. No TD’s, not even close lately. Bad OL play is one thing, but incompetence is another. You could have marched down that field at the end of the game throwing nothing but dinks and dunks. No worries about the OL. What was it, on the thirty with so much time on the clock?Easy win, and the Rams blew it. Very pissed off. Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room. 3 by SoCalRam78 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1086 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #12 ramsrams, CanuckRightWinger, dieterbrock liked this post I’m going to tell you why. Rams want to run 15-20 yard dig routes with a terrible offensive line. They get nothing cheap. Dump it off for 5 yards is sometimes key. 3 by /zn/ 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6763 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #13 This offense has sputtered since the bye last year every single time it has faced a top DL and/or front 7. That's Detroit, Chicago, Phil, the Patz, SF, and now Pitt. Last year the OL was eroding and this year it was young and without established continuity. And injured on top of it. This is where the OL stood by the end of the game: J.B. Long@JB_LongHere’s how the #LARams finished Week 10 up front…LT: WhitworthLG: Corbett (LA debut; acquired 3 weeks ago)C: Blythe (started at LG)RG: Shelton (LA debut; former undrafted; claimed off waivers)RT: Edwards (rookie 5th Rd; made 3rd career start, at RG, today) by Zen_Ronin 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2038 Joined: Sep 26 2016 Edmonton, AB Pro Bowl BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #14 SoCalRam78 wrote:I’m going to tell you why. Rams want to run 15-20 yard dig routes with a terrible offensive line. They get nothing cheap. Dump it off for 5 yards is sometimes key.The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses. I will continue to foolishly talk sh*t about random players because they get better IMMEDIATELY after I do!! I am a living breathing reverse jinx!! by phoenixrising 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 816 Joined: Aug 05 2016 Arroyo Grande, CA Veteran BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #15 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year. by moklerman 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #16 phoenixrising wrote:I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year.It's hard not to be worried at this point but there is still hope that he's just going through growing pains. I look at Cousins as a source of hope. He went through something similar after having a few years of success so maybe Goff can find his way through the struggles too?He's a mess right now but it isn't impossible that it's a darkest before the dawn situation. I think they would best be served by focusing more on the short game and taking what defenses will give at this point. Now is a perfect opportunity to just start completing passes and letting the playmakers make some plays. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #17 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.The problem though is in the route tree. If all the routes are downfield, slow developing, how can his processing speed up?? That said, and mind you I only saw portions of the game on red zone, my concern is when I saw Goff actually have a clean pocket (yes it did happen) he ended up throwing a wtf was that pass. On a separate topic....All I know is that regardless of how the season progresses, Robert Woods is the best and most consistent offensive player we have. He is just amazing. Every week by gmansrams 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 44 Joined: Feb 19 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #18 ramsrams liked this post aeneas1 wrote:but imo it just doesn't square with the level of complete and utter offensive ineptness the rams have shown in some of their recent outings.... in their last 10 games, dating back to the super bowl, they've played 3 games (pats, niners, steelers) in which they've scored a total of just 2 field goals and 1 offensive td on a combined 38 offensive drives, how is that even possible? hell, the hoyer-led colts hung 22 offensive points on the steelers, the fitz-led friggin' dolphins hung 14 on them - mcvay's goff-led rams? 3... again, how is this even possible?i'm not remotely close to giving up on mcvay, goff or most of the other offensive players for that matter, but in 3 of their last 10 games the rams offense has looked beyond bad, i'd venture to say they've even looked foolish, just completely lost and overmatched, it's really been hard to watch, or understand.I signed on to start a thread about yesterday's loss when I read this post that pretty much summed up the points I was going to make. The Rams are being beat at their own game and it is hard to understand why. The Rams had success with the running attack yesterday but only ran the ball 23 times. Gurley did not touch the ball in quarter 4, despite averaging over 6 yards per carry. He rushed the ball 12 times for 73 yards, why did he only have 12 attempts?The defense shut down the Steelers running attack only allowing them 1.6 yards per carry however it was the Steelers not the Rams who had a drive for 8 minutes in quarter 4?Goff completed 22 passes on 41 attempts for 242 yards but had 2 interceptions and 3 fumbles. ( is Goff now the highest paid qb in the league?)Mason Rudolph let me repeat this, Mason Rudolph completed 22 passes on 38 attempts with on TD, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles.The Oline is struggling in pass pro however they did run block well yesterday. Not uncommon for an offensive line starting one rookie and one second year player starting for the first time. Football 101 running the football on the road is the recipe for producing a W.The Rams offense has been unbalanced all season. Does McVay even mention this as he did last season during losses that he needs to be more patient and call more runs? It appears both McVay and Goff are frustrated the offense cannot produce explosive plays at will or move the ball at will as they did last season and are forcing the issue. McVay refuses to turn to the running attack and win a defensive battle and Goff refuses to take what he defense is giving, never hits the hot receiver or take the underneath route and instead forces the ball downfield resulting in an interception at crucial junctures every loss. Opposing defenses know exactly where Goff is going with the ball. Does Goff even look Gurley's way on passing routes?Last season the Rams would of run all over the Steelers in the second half, they would of been the team producing the clock eating drives etc.. Teams take different identities every season. Currently this team LACKS an identity. This team needs to rally behind the defense this season, the defense is up to the challenge. Field position, time of possession, winning the turnover battle are parts of the game this team is in need of being reminded of.The identity offensively this season should be an offense who is nasty in the trenches with a dynamic, three headed running attack with 35 to 40 rushing attempts per game. If they decide to implement this philosophy offensively I believe they will find the explosive plays return to air attack. So hard to understand, yes. No way Sean McVay has forgotten the importance of the running attack in this league. Teams without one lose, period. End of discussion. You cannot keep an opposing defense honest without the threat of a dynamic running attack.Go RAMS! 1 by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #19 1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 28 posts Apr 19 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by SoCalRam78 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1086 Joined: May 25 2015 SoCal Pro Bowl Re: BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #12 ramsrams, CanuckRightWinger, dieterbrock liked this post I’m going to tell you why. Rams want to run 15-20 yard dig routes with a terrible offensive line. They get nothing cheap. Dump it off for 5 yards is sometimes key. 3 by /zn/ 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6763 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #13 This offense has sputtered since the bye last year every single time it has faced a top DL and/or front 7. That's Detroit, Chicago, Phil, the Patz, SF, and now Pitt. Last year the OL was eroding and this year it was young and without established continuity. And injured on top of it. This is where the OL stood by the end of the game: J.B. Long@JB_LongHere’s how the #LARams finished Week 10 up front…LT: WhitworthLG: Corbett (LA debut; acquired 3 weeks ago)C: Blythe (started at LG)RG: Shelton (LA debut; former undrafted; claimed off waivers)RT: Edwards (rookie 5th Rd; made 3rd career start, at RG, today) by Zen_Ronin 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2038 Joined: Sep 26 2016 Edmonton, AB Pro Bowl BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #14 SoCalRam78 wrote:I’m going to tell you why. Rams want to run 15-20 yard dig routes with a terrible offensive line. They get nothing cheap. Dump it off for 5 yards is sometimes key.The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses. I will continue to foolishly talk sh*t about random players because they get better IMMEDIATELY after I do!! I am a living breathing reverse jinx!! by phoenixrising 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 816 Joined: Aug 05 2016 Arroyo Grande, CA Veteran BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #15 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year. by moklerman 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #16 phoenixrising wrote:I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year.It's hard not to be worried at this point but there is still hope that he's just going through growing pains. I look at Cousins as a source of hope. He went through something similar after having a few years of success so maybe Goff can find his way through the struggles too?He's a mess right now but it isn't impossible that it's a darkest before the dawn situation. I think they would best be served by focusing more on the short game and taking what defenses will give at this point. Now is a perfect opportunity to just start completing passes and letting the playmakers make some plays. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #17 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.The problem though is in the route tree. If all the routes are downfield, slow developing, how can his processing speed up?? That said, and mind you I only saw portions of the game on red zone, my concern is when I saw Goff actually have a clean pocket (yes it did happen) he ended up throwing a wtf was that pass. On a separate topic....All I know is that regardless of how the season progresses, Robert Woods is the best and most consistent offensive player we have. He is just amazing. Every week by gmansrams 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 44 Joined: Feb 19 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #18 ramsrams liked this post aeneas1 wrote:but imo it just doesn't square with the level of complete and utter offensive ineptness the rams have shown in some of their recent outings.... in their last 10 games, dating back to the super bowl, they've played 3 games (pats, niners, steelers) in which they've scored a total of just 2 field goals and 1 offensive td on a combined 38 offensive drives, how is that even possible? hell, the hoyer-led colts hung 22 offensive points on the steelers, the fitz-led friggin' dolphins hung 14 on them - mcvay's goff-led rams? 3... again, how is this even possible?i'm not remotely close to giving up on mcvay, goff or most of the other offensive players for that matter, but in 3 of their last 10 games the rams offense has looked beyond bad, i'd venture to say they've even looked foolish, just completely lost and overmatched, it's really been hard to watch, or understand.I signed on to start a thread about yesterday's loss when I read this post that pretty much summed up the points I was going to make. The Rams are being beat at their own game and it is hard to understand why. The Rams had success with the running attack yesterday but only ran the ball 23 times. Gurley did not touch the ball in quarter 4, despite averaging over 6 yards per carry. He rushed the ball 12 times for 73 yards, why did he only have 12 attempts?The defense shut down the Steelers running attack only allowing them 1.6 yards per carry however it was the Steelers not the Rams who had a drive for 8 minutes in quarter 4?Goff completed 22 passes on 41 attempts for 242 yards but had 2 interceptions and 3 fumbles. ( is Goff now the highest paid qb in the league?)Mason Rudolph let me repeat this, Mason Rudolph completed 22 passes on 38 attempts with on TD, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles.The Oline is struggling in pass pro however they did run block well yesterday. Not uncommon for an offensive line starting one rookie and one second year player starting for the first time. Football 101 running the football on the road is the recipe for producing a W.The Rams offense has been unbalanced all season. Does McVay even mention this as he did last season during losses that he needs to be more patient and call more runs? It appears both McVay and Goff are frustrated the offense cannot produce explosive plays at will or move the ball at will as they did last season and are forcing the issue. McVay refuses to turn to the running attack and win a defensive battle and Goff refuses to take what he defense is giving, never hits the hot receiver or take the underneath route and instead forces the ball downfield resulting in an interception at crucial junctures every loss. Opposing defenses know exactly where Goff is going with the ball. Does Goff even look Gurley's way on passing routes?Last season the Rams would of run all over the Steelers in the second half, they would of been the team producing the clock eating drives etc.. Teams take different identities every season. Currently this team LACKS an identity. This team needs to rally behind the defense this season, the defense is up to the challenge. Field position, time of possession, winning the turnover battle are parts of the game this team is in need of being reminded of.The identity offensively this season should be an offense who is nasty in the trenches with a dynamic, three headed running attack with 35 to 40 rushing attempts per game. If they decide to implement this philosophy offensively I believe they will find the explosive plays return to air attack. So hard to understand, yes. No way Sean McVay has forgotten the importance of the running attack in this league. Teams without one lose, period. End of discussion. You cannot keep an opposing defense honest without the threat of a dynamic running attack.Go RAMS! 1 by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #19 1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 28 posts Apr 19 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by /zn/ 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 6763 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #13 This offense has sputtered since the bye last year every single time it has faced a top DL and/or front 7. That's Detroit, Chicago, Phil, the Patz, SF, and now Pitt. Last year the OL was eroding and this year it was young and without established continuity. And injured on top of it. This is where the OL stood by the end of the game: J.B. Long@JB_LongHere’s how the #LARams finished Week 10 up front…LT: WhitworthLG: Corbett (LA debut; acquired 3 weeks ago)C: Blythe (started at LG)RG: Shelton (LA debut; former undrafted; claimed off waivers)RT: Edwards (rookie 5th Rd; made 3rd career start, at RG, today) by Zen_Ronin 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2038 Joined: Sep 26 2016 Edmonton, AB Pro Bowl BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #14 SoCalRam78 wrote:I’m going to tell you why. Rams want to run 15-20 yard dig routes with a terrible offensive line. They get nothing cheap. Dump it off for 5 yards is sometimes key.The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses. I will continue to foolishly talk sh*t about random players because they get better IMMEDIATELY after I do!! I am a living breathing reverse jinx!! by phoenixrising 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 816 Joined: Aug 05 2016 Arroyo Grande, CA Veteran BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #15 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year. by moklerman 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #16 phoenixrising wrote:I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year.It's hard not to be worried at this point but there is still hope that he's just going through growing pains. I look at Cousins as a source of hope. He went through something similar after having a few years of success so maybe Goff can find his way through the struggles too?He's a mess right now but it isn't impossible that it's a darkest before the dawn situation. I think they would best be served by focusing more on the short game and taking what defenses will give at this point. Now is a perfect opportunity to just start completing passes and letting the playmakers make some plays. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #17 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.The problem though is in the route tree. If all the routes are downfield, slow developing, how can his processing speed up?? That said, and mind you I only saw portions of the game on red zone, my concern is when I saw Goff actually have a clean pocket (yes it did happen) he ended up throwing a wtf was that pass. On a separate topic....All I know is that regardless of how the season progresses, Robert Woods is the best and most consistent offensive player we have. He is just amazing. Every week by gmansrams 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 44 Joined: Feb 19 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #18 ramsrams liked this post aeneas1 wrote:but imo it just doesn't square with the level of complete and utter offensive ineptness the rams have shown in some of their recent outings.... in their last 10 games, dating back to the super bowl, they've played 3 games (pats, niners, steelers) in which they've scored a total of just 2 field goals and 1 offensive td on a combined 38 offensive drives, how is that even possible? hell, the hoyer-led colts hung 22 offensive points on the steelers, the fitz-led friggin' dolphins hung 14 on them - mcvay's goff-led rams? 3... again, how is this even possible?i'm not remotely close to giving up on mcvay, goff or most of the other offensive players for that matter, but in 3 of their last 10 games the rams offense has looked beyond bad, i'd venture to say they've even looked foolish, just completely lost and overmatched, it's really been hard to watch, or understand.I signed on to start a thread about yesterday's loss when I read this post that pretty much summed up the points I was going to make. The Rams are being beat at their own game and it is hard to understand why. The Rams had success with the running attack yesterday but only ran the ball 23 times. Gurley did not touch the ball in quarter 4, despite averaging over 6 yards per carry. He rushed the ball 12 times for 73 yards, why did he only have 12 attempts?The defense shut down the Steelers running attack only allowing them 1.6 yards per carry however it was the Steelers not the Rams who had a drive for 8 minutes in quarter 4?Goff completed 22 passes on 41 attempts for 242 yards but had 2 interceptions and 3 fumbles. ( is Goff now the highest paid qb in the league?)Mason Rudolph let me repeat this, Mason Rudolph completed 22 passes on 38 attempts with on TD, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles.The Oline is struggling in pass pro however they did run block well yesterday. Not uncommon for an offensive line starting one rookie and one second year player starting for the first time. Football 101 running the football on the road is the recipe for producing a W.The Rams offense has been unbalanced all season. Does McVay even mention this as he did last season during losses that he needs to be more patient and call more runs? It appears both McVay and Goff are frustrated the offense cannot produce explosive plays at will or move the ball at will as they did last season and are forcing the issue. McVay refuses to turn to the running attack and win a defensive battle and Goff refuses to take what he defense is giving, never hits the hot receiver or take the underneath route and instead forces the ball downfield resulting in an interception at crucial junctures every loss. Opposing defenses know exactly where Goff is going with the ball. Does Goff even look Gurley's way on passing routes?Last season the Rams would of run all over the Steelers in the second half, they would of been the team producing the clock eating drives etc.. Teams take different identities every season. Currently this team LACKS an identity. This team needs to rally behind the defense this season, the defense is up to the challenge. Field position, time of possession, winning the turnover battle are parts of the game this team is in need of being reminded of.The identity offensively this season should be an offense who is nasty in the trenches with a dynamic, three headed running attack with 35 to 40 rushing attempts per game. If they decide to implement this philosophy offensively I believe they will find the explosive plays return to air attack. So hard to understand, yes. No way Sean McVay has forgotten the importance of the running attack in this league. Teams without one lose, period. End of discussion. You cannot keep an opposing defense honest without the threat of a dynamic running attack.Go RAMS! 1 by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #19 1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 28 posts Apr 19 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Zen_Ronin 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2038 Joined: Sep 26 2016 Edmonton, AB Pro Bowl BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #14 SoCalRam78 wrote:I’m going to tell you why. Rams want to run 15-20 yard dig routes with a terrible offensive line. They get nothing cheap. Dump it off for 5 yards is sometimes key.The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses. I will continue to foolishly talk sh*t about random players because they get better IMMEDIATELY after I do!! I am a living breathing reverse jinx!! by phoenixrising 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 816 Joined: Aug 05 2016 Arroyo Grande, CA Veteran BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #15 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year. by moklerman 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #16 phoenixrising wrote:I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year.It's hard not to be worried at this point but there is still hope that he's just going through growing pains. I look at Cousins as a source of hope. He went through something similar after having a few years of success so maybe Goff can find his way through the struggles too?He's a mess right now but it isn't impossible that it's a darkest before the dawn situation. I think they would best be served by focusing more on the short game and taking what defenses will give at this point. Now is a perfect opportunity to just start completing passes and letting the playmakers make some plays. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #17 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.The problem though is in the route tree. If all the routes are downfield, slow developing, how can his processing speed up?? That said, and mind you I only saw portions of the game on red zone, my concern is when I saw Goff actually have a clean pocket (yes it did happen) he ended up throwing a wtf was that pass. On a separate topic....All I know is that regardless of how the season progresses, Robert Woods is the best and most consistent offensive player we have. He is just amazing. Every week by gmansrams 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 44 Joined: Feb 19 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #18 ramsrams liked this post aeneas1 wrote:but imo it just doesn't square with the level of complete and utter offensive ineptness the rams have shown in some of their recent outings.... in their last 10 games, dating back to the super bowl, they've played 3 games (pats, niners, steelers) in which they've scored a total of just 2 field goals and 1 offensive td on a combined 38 offensive drives, how is that even possible? hell, the hoyer-led colts hung 22 offensive points on the steelers, the fitz-led friggin' dolphins hung 14 on them - mcvay's goff-led rams? 3... again, how is this even possible?i'm not remotely close to giving up on mcvay, goff or most of the other offensive players for that matter, but in 3 of their last 10 games the rams offense has looked beyond bad, i'd venture to say they've even looked foolish, just completely lost and overmatched, it's really been hard to watch, or understand.I signed on to start a thread about yesterday's loss when I read this post that pretty much summed up the points I was going to make. The Rams are being beat at their own game and it is hard to understand why. The Rams had success with the running attack yesterday but only ran the ball 23 times. Gurley did not touch the ball in quarter 4, despite averaging over 6 yards per carry. He rushed the ball 12 times for 73 yards, why did he only have 12 attempts?The defense shut down the Steelers running attack only allowing them 1.6 yards per carry however it was the Steelers not the Rams who had a drive for 8 minutes in quarter 4?Goff completed 22 passes on 41 attempts for 242 yards but had 2 interceptions and 3 fumbles. ( is Goff now the highest paid qb in the league?)Mason Rudolph let me repeat this, Mason Rudolph completed 22 passes on 38 attempts with on TD, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles.The Oline is struggling in pass pro however they did run block well yesterday. Not uncommon for an offensive line starting one rookie and one second year player starting for the first time. Football 101 running the football on the road is the recipe for producing a W.The Rams offense has been unbalanced all season. Does McVay even mention this as he did last season during losses that he needs to be more patient and call more runs? It appears both McVay and Goff are frustrated the offense cannot produce explosive plays at will or move the ball at will as they did last season and are forcing the issue. McVay refuses to turn to the running attack and win a defensive battle and Goff refuses to take what he defense is giving, never hits the hot receiver or take the underneath route and instead forces the ball downfield resulting in an interception at crucial junctures every loss. Opposing defenses know exactly where Goff is going with the ball. Does Goff even look Gurley's way on passing routes?Last season the Rams would of run all over the Steelers in the second half, they would of been the team producing the clock eating drives etc.. Teams take different identities every season. Currently this team LACKS an identity. This team needs to rally behind the defense this season, the defense is up to the challenge. Field position, time of possession, winning the turnover battle are parts of the game this team is in need of being reminded of.The identity offensively this season should be an offense who is nasty in the trenches with a dynamic, three headed running attack with 35 to 40 rushing attempts per game. If they decide to implement this philosophy offensively I believe they will find the explosive plays return to air attack. So hard to understand, yes. No way Sean McVay has forgotten the importance of the running attack in this league. Teams without one lose, period. End of discussion. You cannot keep an opposing defense honest without the threat of a dynamic running attack.Go RAMS! 1 by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #19 1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 28 posts Apr 19 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by phoenixrising 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 816 Joined: Aug 05 2016 Arroyo Grande, CA Veteran BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #15 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year. by moklerman 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #16 phoenixrising wrote:I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year.It's hard not to be worried at this point but there is still hope that he's just going through growing pains. I look at Cousins as a source of hope. He went through something similar after having a few years of success so maybe Goff can find his way through the struggles too?He's a mess right now but it isn't impossible that it's a darkest before the dawn situation. I think they would best be served by focusing more on the short game and taking what defenses will give at this point. Now is a perfect opportunity to just start completing passes and letting the playmakers make some plays. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #17 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.The problem though is in the route tree. If all the routes are downfield, slow developing, how can his processing speed up?? That said, and mind you I only saw portions of the game on red zone, my concern is when I saw Goff actually have a clean pocket (yes it did happen) he ended up throwing a wtf was that pass. On a separate topic....All I know is that regardless of how the season progresses, Robert Woods is the best and most consistent offensive player we have. He is just amazing. Every week by gmansrams 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 44 Joined: Feb 19 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #18 ramsrams liked this post aeneas1 wrote:but imo it just doesn't square with the level of complete and utter offensive ineptness the rams have shown in some of their recent outings.... in their last 10 games, dating back to the super bowl, they've played 3 games (pats, niners, steelers) in which they've scored a total of just 2 field goals and 1 offensive td on a combined 38 offensive drives, how is that even possible? hell, the hoyer-led colts hung 22 offensive points on the steelers, the fitz-led friggin' dolphins hung 14 on them - mcvay's goff-led rams? 3... again, how is this even possible?i'm not remotely close to giving up on mcvay, goff or most of the other offensive players for that matter, but in 3 of their last 10 games the rams offense has looked beyond bad, i'd venture to say they've even looked foolish, just completely lost and overmatched, it's really been hard to watch, or understand.I signed on to start a thread about yesterday's loss when I read this post that pretty much summed up the points I was going to make. The Rams are being beat at their own game and it is hard to understand why. The Rams had success with the running attack yesterday but only ran the ball 23 times. Gurley did not touch the ball in quarter 4, despite averaging over 6 yards per carry. He rushed the ball 12 times for 73 yards, why did he only have 12 attempts?The defense shut down the Steelers running attack only allowing them 1.6 yards per carry however it was the Steelers not the Rams who had a drive for 8 minutes in quarter 4?Goff completed 22 passes on 41 attempts for 242 yards but had 2 interceptions and 3 fumbles. ( is Goff now the highest paid qb in the league?)Mason Rudolph let me repeat this, Mason Rudolph completed 22 passes on 38 attempts with on TD, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles.The Oline is struggling in pass pro however they did run block well yesterday. Not uncommon for an offensive line starting one rookie and one second year player starting for the first time. Football 101 running the football on the road is the recipe for producing a W.The Rams offense has been unbalanced all season. Does McVay even mention this as he did last season during losses that he needs to be more patient and call more runs? It appears both McVay and Goff are frustrated the offense cannot produce explosive plays at will or move the ball at will as they did last season and are forcing the issue. McVay refuses to turn to the running attack and win a defensive battle and Goff refuses to take what he defense is giving, never hits the hot receiver or take the underneath route and instead forces the ball downfield resulting in an interception at crucial junctures every loss. Opposing defenses know exactly where Goff is going with the ball. Does Goff even look Gurley's way on passing routes?Last season the Rams would of run all over the Steelers in the second half, they would of been the team producing the clock eating drives etc.. Teams take different identities every season. Currently this team LACKS an identity. This team needs to rally behind the defense this season, the defense is up to the challenge. Field position, time of possession, winning the turnover battle are parts of the game this team is in need of being reminded of.The identity offensively this season should be an offense who is nasty in the trenches with a dynamic, three headed running attack with 35 to 40 rushing attempts per game. If they decide to implement this philosophy offensively I believe they will find the explosive plays return to air attack. So hard to understand, yes. No way Sean McVay has forgotten the importance of the running attack in this league. Teams without one lose, period. End of discussion. You cannot keep an opposing defense honest without the threat of a dynamic running attack.Go RAMS! 1 by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #19 1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 28 posts Apr 19 2024
by moklerman 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #16 phoenixrising wrote:I agree about the processing speed, but I see it a little differently. Goff's processing speed is fine when he has decent protection, but when he's under pressure his processing speed slows down when it needs to speed up. He's been disappointing, heck at times he looks likes he's regressed back to his rookie year.It's hard not to be worried at this point but there is still hope that he's just going through growing pains. I look at Cousins as a source of hope. He went through something similar after having a few years of success so maybe Goff can find his way through the struggles too?He's a mess right now but it isn't impossible that it's a darkest before the dawn situation. I think they would best be served by focusing more on the short game and taking what defenses will give at this point. Now is a perfect opportunity to just start completing passes and letting the playmakers make some plays. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #17 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.The problem though is in the route tree. If all the routes are downfield, slow developing, how can his processing speed up?? That said, and mind you I only saw portions of the game on red zone, my concern is when I saw Goff actually have a clean pocket (yes it did happen) he ended up throwing a wtf was that pass. On a separate topic....All I know is that regardless of how the season progresses, Robert Woods is the best and most consistent offensive player we have. He is just amazing. Every week by gmansrams 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 44 Joined: Feb 19 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #18 ramsrams liked this post aeneas1 wrote:but imo it just doesn't square with the level of complete and utter offensive ineptness the rams have shown in some of their recent outings.... in their last 10 games, dating back to the super bowl, they've played 3 games (pats, niners, steelers) in which they've scored a total of just 2 field goals and 1 offensive td on a combined 38 offensive drives, how is that even possible? hell, the hoyer-led colts hung 22 offensive points on the steelers, the fitz-led friggin' dolphins hung 14 on them - mcvay's goff-led rams? 3... again, how is this even possible?i'm not remotely close to giving up on mcvay, goff or most of the other offensive players for that matter, but in 3 of their last 10 games the rams offense has looked beyond bad, i'd venture to say they've even looked foolish, just completely lost and overmatched, it's really been hard to watch, or understand.I signed on to start a thread about yesterday's loss when I read this post that pretty much summed up the points I was going to make. The Rams are being beat at their own game and it is hard to understand why. The Rams had success with the running attack yesterday but only ran the ball 23 times. Gurley did not touch the ball in quarter 4, despite averaging over 6 yards per carry. He rushed the ball 12 times for 73 yards, why did he only have 12 attempts?The defense shut down the Steelers running attack only allowing them 1.6 yards per carry however it was the Steelers not the Rams who had a drive for 8 minutes in quarter 4?Goff completed 22 passes on 41 attempts for 242 yards but had 2 interceptions and 3 fumbles. ( is Goff now the highest paid qb in the league?)Mason Rudolph let me repeat this, Mason Rudolph completed 22 passes on 38 attempts with on TD, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles.The Oline is struggling in pass pro however they did run block well yesterday. Not uncommon for an offensive line starting one rookie and one second year player starting for the first time. Football 101 running the football on the road is the recipe for producing a W.The Rams offense has been unbalanced all season. Does McVay even mention this as he did last season during losses that he needs to be more patient and call more runs? It appears both McVay and Goff are frustrated the offense cannot produce explosive plays at will or move the ball at will as they did last season and are forcing the issue. McVay refuses to turn to the running attack and win a defensive battle and Goff refuses to take what he defense is giving, never hits the hot receiver or take the underneath route and instead forces the ball downfield resulting in an interception at crucial junctures every loss. Opposing defenses know exactly where Goff is going with the ball. Does Goff even look Gurley's way on passing routes?Last season the Rams would of run all over the Steelers in the second half, they would of been the team producing the clock eating drives etc.. Teams take different identities every season. Currently this team LACKS an identity. This team needs to rally behind the defense this season, the defense is up to the challenge. Field position, time of possession, winning the turnover battle are parts of the game this team is in need of being reminded of.The identity offensively this season should be an offense who is nasty in the trenches with a dynamic, three headed running attack with 35 to 40 rushing attempts per game. If they decide to implement this philosophy offensively I believe they will find the explosive plays return to air attack. So hard to understand, yes. No way Sean McVay has forgotten the importance of the running attack in this league. Teams without one lose, period. End of discussion. You cannot keep an opposing defense honest without the threat of a dynamic running attack.Go RAMS! 1 by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #19 1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 28 posts Apr 19 2024
by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #17 Zen_Ronin wrote:The problem with this is Goff's processing speed is painfully slow for a pro QB. I love the dude, and he's got a great arm, best deep ball accuracy in the league 2nd to maybe Rodgers imo, but he NEEDS time to read the field. Too much time! I've been saying this since his rookie year and it hasn't changed. If he doesn't have an o-line that can hold a solid pocket for 5+ seconds he's not nearly as effective, and 5 seconds is an eternity and a lot to ask. With our current o-line that's just not going to happen, even against mediocre defenses.The problem though is in the route tree. If all the routes are downfield, slow developing, how can his processing speed up?? That said, and mind you I only saw portions of the game on red zone, my concern is when I saw Goff actually have a clean pocket (yes it did happen) he ended up throwing a wtf was that pass. On a separate topic....All I know is that regardless of how the season progresses, Robert Woods is the best and most consistent offensive player we have. He is just amazing. Every week by gmansrams 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 44 Joined: Feb 19 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #18 ramsrams liked this post aeneas1 wrote:but imo it just doesn't square with the level of complete and utter offensive ineptness the rams have shown in some of their recent outings.... in their last 10 games, dating back to the super bowl, they've played 3 games (pats, niners, steelers) in which they've scored a total of just 2 field goals and 1 offensive td on a combined 38 offensive drives, how is that even possible? hell, the hoyer-led colts hung 22 offensive points on the steelers, the fitz-led friggin' dolphins hung 14 on them - mcvay's goff-led rams? 3... again, how is this even possible?i'm not remotely close to giving up on mcvay, goff or most of the other offensive players for that matter, but in 3 of their last 10 games the rams offense has looked beyond bad, i'd venture to say they've even looked foolish, just completely lost and overmatched, it's really been hard to watch, or understand.I signed on to start a thread about yesterday's loss when I read this post that pretty much summed up the points I was going to make. The Rams are being beat at their own game and it is hard to understand why. The Rams had success with the running attack yesterday but only ran the ball 23 times. Gurley did not touch the ball in quarter 4, despite averaging over 6 yards per carry. He rushed the ball 12 times for 73 yards, why did he only have 12 attempts?The defense shut down the Steelers running attack only allowing them 1.6 yards per carry however it was the Steelers not the Rams who had a drive for 8 minutes in quarter 4?Goff completed 22 passes on 41 attempts for 242 yards but had 2 interceptions and 3 fumbles. ( is Goff now the highest paid qb in the league?)Mason Rudolph let me repeat this, Mason Rudolph completed 22 passes on 38 attempts with on TD, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles.The Oline is struggling in pass pro however they did run block well yesterday. Not uncommon for an offensive line starting one rookie and one second year player starting for the first time. Football 101 running the football on the road is the recipe for producing a W.The Rams offense has been unbalanced all season. Does McVay even mention this as he did last season during losses that he needs to be more patient and call more runs? It appears both McVay and Goff are frustrated the offense cannot produce explosive plays at will or move the ball at will as they did last season and are forcing the issue. McVay refuses to turn to the running attack and win a defensive battle and Goff refuses to take what he defense is giving, never hits the hot receiver or take the underneath route and instead forces the ball downfield resulting in an interception at crucial junctures every loss. Opposing defenses know exactly where Goff is going with the ball. Does Goff even look Gurley's way on passing routes?Last season the Rams would of run all over the Steelers in the second half, they would of been the team producing the clock eating drives etc.. Teams take different identities every season. Currently this team LACKS an identity. This team needs to rally behind the defense this season, the defense is up to the challenge. Field position, time of possession, winning the turnover battle are parts of the game this team is in need of being reminded of.The identity offensively this season should be an offense who is nasty in the trenches with a dynamic, three headed running attack with 35 to 40 rushing attempts per game. If they decide to implement this philosophy offensively I believe they will find the explosive plays return to air attack. So hard to understand, yes. No way Sean McVay has forgotten the importance of the running attack in this league. Teams without one lose, period. End of discussion. You cannot keep an opposing defense honest without the threat of a dynamic running attack.Go RAMS! 1 by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #19 1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 28 posts Apr 19 2024
by gmansrams 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 44 Joined: Feb 19 2017 LA Coliseum Undrafted Free Agent BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #18 ramsrams liked this post aeneas1 wrote:but imo it just doesn't square with the level of complete and utter offensive ineptness the rams have shown in some of their recent outings.... in their last 10 games, dating back to the super bowl, they've played 3 games (pats, niners, steelers) in which they've scored a total of just 2 field goals and 1 offensive td on a combined 38 offensive drives, how is that even possible? hell, the hoyer-led colts hung 22 offensive points on the steelers, the fitz-led friggin' dolphins hung 14 on them - mcvay's goff-led rams? 3... again, how is this even possible?i'm not remotely close to giving up on mcvay, goff or most of the other offensive players for that matter, but in 3 of their last 10 games the rams offense has looked beyond bad, i'd venture to say they've even looked foolish, just completely lost and overmatched, it's really been hard to watch, or understand.I signed on to start a thread about yesterday's loss when I read this post that pretty much summed up the points I was going to make. The Rams are being beat at their own game and it is hard to understand why. The Rams had success with the running attack yesterday but only ran the ball 23 times. Gurley did not touch the ball in quarter 4, despite averaging over 6 yards per carry. He rushed the ball 12 times for 73 yards, why did he only have 12 attempts?The defense shut down the Steelers running attack only allowing them 1.6 yards per carry however it was the Steelers not the Rams who had a drive for 8 minutes in quarter 4?Goff completed 22 passes on 41 attempts for 242 yards but had 2 interceptions and 3 fumbles. ( is Goff now the highest paid qb in the league?)Mason Rudolph let me repeat this, Mason Rudolph completed 22 passes on 38 attempts with on TD, 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles.The Oline is struggling in pass pro however they did run block well yesterday. Not uncommon for an offensive line starting one rookie and one second year player starting for the first time. Football 101 running the football on the road is the recipe for producing a W.The Rams offense has been unbalanced all season. Does McVay even mention this as he did last season during losses that he needs to be more patient and call more runs? It appears both McVay and Goff are frustrated the offense cannot produce explosive plays at will or move the ball at will as they did last season and are forcing the issue. McVay refuses to turn to the running attack and win a defensive battle and Goff refuses to take what he defense is giving, never hits the hot receiver or take the underneath route and instead forces the ball downfield resulting in an interception at crucial junctures every loss. Opposing defenses know exactly where Goff is going with the ball. Does Goff even look Gurley's way on passing routes?Last season the Rams would of run all over the Steelers in the second half, they would of been the team producing the clock eating drives etc.. Teams take different identities every season. Currently this team LACKS an identity. This team needs to rally behind the defense this season, the defense is up to the challenge. Field position, time of possession, winning the turnover battle are parts of the game this team is in need of being reminded of.The identity offensively this season should be an offense who is nasty in the trenches with a dynamic, three headed running attack with 35 to 40 rushing attempts per game. If they decide to implement this philosophy offensively I believe they will find the explosive plays return to air attack. So hard to understand, yes. No way Sean McVay has forgotten the importance of the running attack in this league. Teams without one lose, period. End of discussion. You cannot keep an opposing defense honest without the threat of a dynamic running attack.Go RAMS! 1 by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #19 1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 28 posts Apr 19 2024
by AvengerRam 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #19 1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1. by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 28 posts Apr 19 2024
by dieterbrock 4 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame BAD OLINE PLAY IS ONE THING... POST #20 AvengerRam wrote:1. Bad OL play = bad offense against quality defense.2. Play calling doesn’t change point No. 1.Disagree. When the playcalling/scheme is reliant on quality oline play there is a serious disconnect here. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business