by 69RamFan 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3176 Joined: Oct 15 2016 LA CA by way of NY/NJ Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #1 TOPIC AUTHOR A shot of cortisone. or next man up,,, Either Smart or Fox.... by 69RamFan 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3176 Joined: Oct 15 2016 LA CA by way of NY/NJ Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #2 TOPIC AUTHOR That's sounds good,,, putting both Gaines and SJD,,, to clog up the middle, have Fowler AD next to each other and on the other side, have either Ebukam or Matthews... and rotate Smart and Fox with either Gaines or SJD,,,, I would even put Matthews on the ILB on some plays.But they must keep one of those two NT in the middle to keep it clogged up if the get rotated out... Every time they took out SJD the last game,,, they spread the D-line out and the middle was wide open,,, We can't do that with Kamara.... by CanuckRightWinger 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #3 Haden liked this post The problem, besides being one starter down...….IS THAT THAT ONE STARTER IS BEING PAID $10MIL THIS SEASON!! OUCH!! 1 by max 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Brockers dinged up POST #4 Brockers is gone next year. They need the money for better players. They can get a good run stuffer for half his salary. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by aeneas1 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #5 rapp is such a gamer put him in there, he'd probably give the saints oline all they could handle! back to reality, mcvay seems to think brockers will be ready to go, he's "optimistic". by CanuckRightWinger 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #6 Totally agree max! How is Brockers worth $10Million THIS year is my question!! by Indrid Cold 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 864 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Brockers dinged up POST #7 Gaines inactive last week. IMO, he ain't starting anytime soon, injury or no. by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #8 Brockers has been a better player. He was good at DE when they moved him there in 2017. They say he was banged up in 2018 and it seems he was at some point in game 1 this year too. Having said that yeah I can see them moving on next year. If nothing else it's starting to look like he gets banged up too much. However replacing him next year means a high draft pick, right? Because you can't count on a lower picked rookie to handle that position. Maybe a free agent but you have to think that would cost...at a time when they also have to think about paying a few of their own FAs. So a rookie would be better that way. As for this week, if he can't play, who takes his place? IMO probably Fox. Who is a little light for base 3/4 DE but basically, that's who they have. I dunno...if he plays and can handle the position maybe that fixes things for next year too...though he's also a free agent after the season. Maybe it's just time to draft a couple of DL high. .... by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #9 Last edited by /zn/ on Sep 13 2019, edited 2 times in total. Dick84 wrote:That's why I floated the Gaines/Joseph thing.. I think first down.. if it's not the Gaines/Noteboom thing... we see Smart in there. Just more built for run-D.. Fox rotating in a bunch. Yup.. gonna have to use at least a second rounder, imo, on a Dline guy to replace Brockers. Probably have to bring in a cheap vet as well.My hesitation there is the idea of a 6'1 DE in a 3/4 base. And that's going against one of the 2-3 best ROTs in the league, one of the few good ones who can actually play LOT. This may be a moot point since Ramcyzk shut out Watt. So they can beat the Saints but not by dominating the right side of their OL. Which therefore...is not going to be the plan. Whoever plays left DE is probably going just be a sacrificed figure trying to create space for Matthews. Anyway Saints aside, this wasn't supposed to be what happened...just putting the obvious down in black and white, but, Franklin-Myers was supposed to take the next step. It was supposed to be Brockers doing better, backed up by F-M. My guess based on reading various things is that F-M added weight to be a more traditional 3/4 DE and the result was he wasn't as athletic, and maybe even got discouraged. He was immediately picked up by a 4/3 team and probably really is more of a (left-side) 4/3 DE.I've heard that Fox added some weight too (deliberately) so who knows about that. Yeah 2nd rounder or even a 1st rounder maybe. Just speculating but I like their chances of getting CBs lower in the rounds better than getting a functioning rookie DE lower down. ... by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 19 posts Apr 24 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by 69RamFan 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3176 Joined: Oct 15 2016 LA CA by way of NY/NJ Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #2 TOPIC AUTHOR That's sounds good,,, putting both Gaines and SJD,,, to clog up the middle, have Fowler AD next to each other and on the other side, have either Ebukam or Matthews... and rotate Smart and Fox with either Gaines or SJD,,,, I would even put Matthews on the ILB on some plays.But they must keep one of those two NT in the middle to keep it clogged up if the get rotated out... Every time they took out SJD the last game,,, they spread the D-line out and the middle was wide open,,, We can't do that with Kamara.... by CanuckRightWinger 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #3 Haden liked this post The problem, besides being one starter down...….IS THAT THAT ONE STARTER IS BEING PAID $10MIL THIS SEASON!! OUCH!! 1 by max 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Brockers dinged up POST #4 Brockers is gone next year. They need the money for better players. They can get a good run stuffer for half his salary. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by aeneas1 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #5 rapp is such a gamer put him in there, he'd probably give the saints oline all they could handle! back to reality, mcvay seems to think brockers will be ready to go, he's "optimistic". by CanuckRightWinger 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #6 Totally agree max! How is Brockers worth $10Million THIS year is my question!! by Indrid Cold 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 864 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Brockers dinged up POST #7 Gaines inactive last week. IMO, he ain't starting anytime soon, injury or no. by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #8 Brockers has been a better player. He was good at DE when they moved him there in 2017. They say he was banged up in 2018 and it seems he was at some point in game 1 this year too. Having said that yeah I can see them moving on next year. If nothing else it's starting to look like he gets banged up too much. However replacing him next year means a high draft pick, right? Because you can't count on a lower picked rookie to handle that position. Maybe a free agent but you have to think that would cost...at a time when they also have to think about paying a few of their own FAs. So a rookie would be better that way. As for this week, if he can't play, who takes his place? IMO probably Fox. Who is a little light for base 3/4 DE but basically, that's who they have. I dunno...if he plays and can handle the position maybe that fixes things for next year too...though he's also a free agent after the season. Maybe it's just time to draft a couple of DL high. .... by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #9 Last edited by /zn/ on Sep 13 2019, edited 2 times in total. Dick84 wrote:That's why I floated the Gaines/Joseph thing.. I think first down.. if it's not the Gaines/Noteboom thing... we see Smart in there. Just more built for run-D.. Fox rotating in a bunch. Yup.. gonna have to use at least a second rounder, imo, on a Dline guy to replace Brockers. Probably have to bring in a cheap vet as well.My hesitation there is the idea of a 6'1 DE in a 3/4 base. And that's going against one of the 2-3 best ROTs in the league, one of the few good ones who can actually play LOT. This may be a moot point since Ramcyzk shut out Watt. So they can beat the Saints but not by dominating the right side of their OL. Which therefore...is not going to be the plan. Whoever plays left DE is probably going just be a sacrificed figure trying to create space for Matthews. Anyway Saints aside, this wasn't supposed to be what happened...just putting the obvious down in black and white, but, Franklin-Myers was supposed to take the next step. It was supposed to be Brockers doing better, backed up by F-M. My guess based on reading various things is that F-M added weight to be a more traditional 3/4 DE and the result was he wasn't as athletic, and maybe even got discouraged. He was immediately picked up by a 4/3 team and probably really is more of a (left-side) 4/3 DE.I've heard that Fox added some weight too (deliberately) so who knows about that. Yeah 2nd rounder or even a 1st rounder maybe. Just speculating but I like their chances of getting CBs lower in the rounds better than getting a functioning rookie DE lower down. ... by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 19 posts Apr 24 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by CanuckRightWinger 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #3 Haden liked this post The problem, besides being one starter down...….IS THAT THAT ONE STARTER IS BEING PAID $10MIL THIS SEASON!! OUCH!! 1 by max 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Brockers dinged up POST #4 Brockers is gone next year. They need the money for better players. They can get a good run stuffer for half his salary. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by aeneas1 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #5 rapp is such a gamer put him in there, he'd probably give the saints oline all they could handle! back to reality, mcvay seems to think brockers will be ready to go, he's "optimistic". by CanuckRightWinger 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #6 Totally agree max! How is Brockers worth $10Million THIS year is my question!! by Indrid Cold 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 864 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Brockers dinged up POST #7 Gaines inactive last week. IMO, he ain't starting anytime soon, injury or no. by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #8 Brockers has been a better player. He was good at DE when they moved him there in 2017. They say he was banged up in 2018 and it seems he was at some point in game 1 this year too. Having said that yeah I can see them moving on next year. If nothing else it's starting to look like he gets banged up too much. However replacing him next year means a high draft pick, right? Because you can't count on a lower picked rookie to handle that position. Maybe a free agent but you have to think that would cost...at a time when they also have to think about paying a few of their own FAs. So a rookie would be better that way. As for this week, if he can't play, who takes his place? IMO probably Fox. Who is a little light for base 3/4 DE but basically, that's who they have. I dunno...if he plays and can handle the position maybe that fixes things for next year too...though he's also a free agent after the season. Maybe it's just time to draft a couple of DL high. .... by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #9 Last edited by /zn/ on Sep 13 2019, edited 2 times in total. Dick84 wrote:That's why I floated the Gaines/Joseph thing.. I think first down.. if it's not the Gaines/Noteboom thing... we see Smart in there. Just more built for run-D.. Fox rotating in a bunch. Yup.. gonna have to use at least a second rounder, imo, on a Dline guy to replace Brockers. Probably have to bring in a cheap vet as well.My hesitation there is the idea of a 6'1 DE in a 3/4 base. And that's going against one of the 2-3 best ROTs in the league, one of the few good ones who can actually play LOT. This may be a moot point since Ramcyzk shut out Watt. So they can beat the Saints but not by dominating the right side of their OL. Which therefore...is not going to be the plan. Whoever plays left DE is probably going just be a sacrificed figure trying to create space for Matthews. Anyway Saints aside, this wasn't supposed to be what happened...just putting the obvious down in black and white, but, Franklin-Myers was supposed to take the next step. It was supposed to be Brockers doing better, backed up by F-M. My guess based on reading various things is that F-M added weight to be a more traditional 3/4 DE and the result was he wasn't as athletic, and maybe even got discouraged. He was immediately picked up by a 4/3 team and probably really is more of a (left-side) 4/3 DE.I've heard that Fox added some weight too (deliberately) so who knows about that. Yeah 2nd rounder or even a 1st rounder maybe. Just speculating but I like their chances of getting CBs lower in the rounds better than getting a functioning rookie DE lower down. ... by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 19 posts Apr 24 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by max 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: Brockers dinged up POST #4 Brockers is gone next year. They need the money for better players. They can get a good run stuffer for half his salary. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by aeneas1 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #5 rapp is such a gamer put him in there, he'd probably give the saints oline all they could handle! back to reality, mcvay seems to think brockers will be ready to go, he's "optimistic". by CanuckRightWinger 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #6 Totally agree max! How is Brockers worth $10Million THIS year is my question!! by Indrid Cold 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 864 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Brockers dinged up POST #7 Gaines inactive last week. IMO, he ain't starting anytime soon, injury or no. by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #8 Brockers has been a better player. He was good at DE when they moved him there in 2017. They say he was banged up in 2018 and it seems he was at some point in game 1 this year too. Having said that yeah I can see them moving on next year. If nothing else it's starting to look like he gets banged up too much. However replacing him next year means a high draft pick, right? Because you can't count on a lower picked rookie to handle that position. Maybe a free agent but you have to think that would cost...at a time when they also have to think about paying a few of their own FAs. So a rookie would be better that way. As for this week, if he can't play, who takes his place? IMO probably Fox. Who is a little light for base 3/4 DE but basically, that's who they have. I dunno...if he plays and can handle the position maybe that fixes things for next year too...though he's also a free agent after the season. Maybe it's just time to draft a couple of DL high. .... by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #9 Last edited by /zn/ on Sep 13 2019, edited 2 times in total. Dick84 wrote:That's why I floated the Gaines/Joseph thing.. I think first down.. if it's not the Gaines/Noteboom thing... we see Smart in there. Just more built for run-D.. Fox rotating in a bunch. Yup.. gonna have to use at least a second rounder, imo, on a Dline guy to replace Brockers. Probably have to bring in a cheap vet as well.My hesitation there is the idea of a 6'1 DE in a 3/4 base. And that's going against one of the 2-3 best ROTs in the league, one of the few good ones who can actually play LOT. This may be a moot point since Ramcyzk shut out Watt. So they can beat the Saints but not by dominating the right side of their OL. Which therefore...is not going to be the plan. Whoever plays left DE is probably going just be a sacrificed figure trying to create space for Matthews. Anyway Saints aside, this wasn't supposed to be what happened...just putting the obvious down in black and white, but, Franklin-Myers was supposed to take the next step. It was supposed to be Brockers doing better, backed up by F-M. My guess based on reading various things is that F-M added weight to be a more traditional 3/4 DE and the result was he wasn't as athletic, and maybe even got discouraged. He was immediately picked up by a 4/3 team and probably really is more of a (left-side) 4/3 DE.I've heard that Fox added some weight too (deliberately) so who knows about that. Yeah 2nd rounder or even a 1st rounder maybe. Just speculating but I like their chances of getting CBs lower in the rounds better than getting a functioning rookie DE lower down. ... by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 19 posts Apr 24 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by aeneas1 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #5 rapp is such a gamer put him in there, he'd probably give the saints oline all they could handle! back to reality, mcvay seems to think brockers will be ready to go, he's "optimistic". by CanuckRightWinger 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #6 Totally agree max! How is Brockers worth $10Million THIS year is my question!! by Indrid Cold 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 864 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Brockers dinged up POST #7 Gaines inactive last week. IMO, he ain't starting anytime soon, injury or no. by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #8 Brockers has been a better player. He was good at DE when they moved him there in 2017. They say he was banged up in 2018 and it seems he was at some point in game 1 this year too. Having said that yeah I can see them moving on next year. If nothing else it's starting to look like he gets banged up too much. However replacing him next year means a high draft pick, right? Because you can't count on a lower picked rookie to handle that position. Maybe a free agent but you have to think that would cost...at a time when they also have to think about paying a few of their own FAs. So a rookie would be better that way. As for this week, if he can't play, who takes his place? IMO probably Fox. Who is a little light for base 3/4 DE but basically, that's who they have. I dunno...if he plays and can handle the position maybe that fixes things for next year too...though he's also a free agent after the season. Maybe it's just time to draft a couple of DL high. .... by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #9 Last edited by /zn/ on Sep 13 2019, edited 2 times in total. Dick84 wrote:That's why I floated the Gaines/Joseph thing.. I think first down.. if it's not the Gaines/Noteboom thing... we see Smart in there. Just more built for run-D.. Fox rotating in a bunch. Yup.. gonna have to use at least a second rounder, imo, on a Dline guy to replace Brockers. Probably have to bring in a cheap vet as well.My hesitation there is the idea of a 6'1 DE in a 3/4 base. And that's going against one of the 2-3 best ROTs in the league, one of the few good ones who can actually play LOT. This may be a moot point since Ramcyzk shut out Watt. So they can beat the Saints but not by dominating the right side of their OL. Which therefore...is not going to be the plan. Whoever plays left DE is probably going just be a sacrificed figure trying to create space for Matthews. Anyway Saints aside, this wasn't supposed to be what happened...just putting the obvious down in black and white, but, Franklin-Myers was supposed to take the next step. It was supposed to be Brockers doing better, backed up by F-M. My guess based on reading various things is that F-M added weight to be a more traditional 3/4 DE and the result was he wasn't as athletic, and maybe even got discouraged. He was immediately picked up by a 4/3 team and probably really is more of a (left-side) 4/3 DE.I've heard that Fox added some weight too (deliberately) so who knows about that. Yeah 2nd rounder or even a 1st rounder maybe. Just speculating but I like their chances of getting CBs lower in the rounds better than getting a functioning rookie DE lower down. ... by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 19 posts Apr 24 2024
by CanuckRightWinger 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2777 Joined: Jan 13 2016 VANCOUVER, BC Superstar Brockers dinged up POST #6 Totally agree max! How is Brockers worth $10Million THIS year is my question!! by Indrid Cold 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 864 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Brockers dinged up POST #7 Gaines inactive last week. IMO, he ain't starting anytime soon, injury or no. by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #8 Brockers has been a better player. He was good at DE when they moved him there in 2017. They say he was banged up in 2018 and it seems he was at some point in game 1 this year too. Having said that yeah I can see them moving on next year. If nothing else it's starting to look like he gets banged up too much. However replacing him next year means a high draft pick, right? Because you can't count on a lower picked rookie to handle that position. Maybe a free agent but you have to think that would cost...at a time when they also have to think about paying a few of their own FAs. So a rookie would be better that way. As for this week, if he can't play, who takes his place? IMO probably Fox. Who is a little light for base 3/4 DE but basically, that's who they have. I dunno...if he plays and can handle the position maybe that fixes things for next year too...though he's also a free agent after the season. Maybe it's just time to draft a couple of DL high. .... by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #9 Last edited by /zn/ on Sep 13 2019, edited 2 times in total. Dick84 wrote:That's why I floated the Gaines/Joseph thing.. I think first down.. if it's not the Gaines/Noteboom thing... we see Smart in there. Just more built for run-D.. Fox rotating in a bunch. Yup.. gonna have to use at least a second rounder, imo, on a Dline guy to replace Brockers. Probably have to bring in a cheap vet as well.My hesitation there is the idea of a 6'1 DE in a 3/4 base. And that's going against one of the 2-3 best ROTs in the league, one of the few good ones who can actually play LOT. This may be a moot point since Ramcyzk shut out Watt. So they can beat the Saints but not by dominating the right side of their OL. Which therefore...is not going to be the plan. Whoever plays left DE is probably going just be a sacrificed figure trying to create space for Matthews. Anyway Saints aside, this wasn't supposed to be what happened...just putting the obvious down in black and white, but, Franklin-Myers was supposed to take the next step. It was supposed to be Brockers doing better, backed up by F-M. My guess based on reading various things is that F-M added weight to be a more traditional 3/4 DE and the result was he wasn't as athletic, and maybe even got discouraged. He was immediately picked up by a 4/3 team and probably really is more of a (left-side) 4/3 DE.I've heard that Fox added some weight too (deliberately) so who knows about that. Yeah 2nd rounder or even a 1st rounder maybe. Just speculating but I like their chances of getting CBs lower in the rounds better than getting a functioning rookie DE lower down. ... by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 19 posts Apr 24 2024
by Indrid Cold 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 864 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran Re: Brockers dinged up POST #7 Gaines inactive last week. IMO, he ain't starting anytime soon, injury or no. by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #8 Brockers has been a better player. He was good at DE when they moved him there in 2017. They say he was banged up in 2018 and it seems he was at some point in game 1 this year too. Having said that yeah I can see them moving on next year. If nothing else it's starting to look like he gets banged up too much. However replacing him next year means a high draft pick, right? Because you can't count on a lower picked rookie to handle that position. Maybe a free agent but you have to think that would cost...at a time when they also have to think about paying a few of their own FAs. So a rookie would be better that way. As for this week, if he can't play, who takes his place? IMO probably Fox. Who is a little light for base 3/4 DE but basically, that's who they have. I dunno...if he plays and can handle the position maybe that fixes things for next year too...though he's also a free agent after the season. Maybe it's just time to draft a couple of DL high. .... by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #9 Last edited by /zn/ on Sep 13 2019, edited 2 times in total. Dick84 wrote:That's why I floated the Gaines/Joseph thing.. I think first down.. if it's not the Gaines/Noteboom thing... we see Smart in there. Just more built for run-D.. Fox rotating in a bunch. Yup.. gonna have to use at least a second rounder, imo, on a Dline guy to replace Brockers. Probably have to bring in a cheap vet as well.My hesitation there is the idea of a 6'1 DE in a 3/4 base. And that's going against one of the 2-3 best ROTs in the league, one of the few good ones who can actually play LOT. This may be a moot point since Ramcyzk shut out Watt. So they can beat the Saints but not by dominating the right side of their OL. Which therefore...is not going to be the plan. Whoever plays left DE is probably going just be a sacrificed figure trying to create space for Matthews. Anyway Saints aside, this wasn't supposed to be what happened...just putting the obvious down in black and white, but, Franklin-Myers was supposed to take the next step. It was supposed to be Brockers doing better, backed up by F-M. My guess based on reading various things is that F-M added weight to be a more traditional 3/4 DE and the result was he wasn't as athletic, and maybe even got discouraged. He was immediately picked up by a 4/3 team and probably really is more of a (left-side) 4/3 DE.I've heard that Fox added some weight too (deliberately) so who knows about that. Yeah 2nd rounder or even a 1st rounder maybe. Just speculating but I like their chances of getting CBs lower in the rounds better than getting a functioning rookie DE lower down. ... by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 19 posts Apr 24 2024
by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #8 Brockers has been a better player. He was good at DE when they moved him there in 2017. They say he was banged up in 2018 and it seems he was at some point in game 1 this year too. Having said that yeah I can see them moving on next year. If nothing else it's starting to look like he gets banged up too much. However replacing him next year means a high draft pick, right? Because you can't count on a lower picked rookie to handle that position. Maybe a free agent but you have to think that would cost...at a time when they also have to think about paying a few of their own FAs. So a rookie would be better that way. As for this week, if he can't play, who takes his place? IMO probably Fox. Who is a little light for base 3/4 DE but basically, that's who they have. I dunno...if he plays and can handle the position maybe that fixes things for next year too...though he's also a free agent after the season. Maybe it's just time to draft a couple of DL high. .... by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #9 Last edited by /zn/ on Sep 13 2019, edited 2 times in total. Dick84 wrote:That's why I floated the Gaines/Joseph thing.. I think first down.. if it's not the Gaines/Noteboom thing... we see Smart in there. Just more built for run-D.. Fox rotating in a bunch. Yup.. gonna have to use at least a second rounder, imo, on a Dline guy to replace Brockers. Probably have to bring in a cheap vet as well.My hesitation there is the idea of a 6'1 DE in a 3/4 base. And that's going against one of the 2-3 best ROTs in the league, one of the few good ones who can actually play LOT. This may be a moot point since Ramcyzk shut out Watt. So they can beat the Saints but not by dominating the right side of their OL. Which therefore...is not going to be the plan. Whoever plays left DE is probably going just be a sacrificed figure trying to create space for Matthews. Anyway Saints aside, this wasn't supposed to be what happened...just putting the obvious down in black and white, but, Franklin-Myers was supposed to take the next step. It was supposed to be Brockers doing better, backed up by F-M. My guess based on reading various things is that F-M added weight to be a more traditional 3/4 DE and the result was he wasn't as athletic, and maybe even got discouraged. He was immediately picked up by a 4/3 team and probably really is more of a (left-side) 4/3 DE.I've heard that Fox added some weight too (deliberately) so who knows about that. Yeah 2nd rounder or even a 1st rounder maybe. Just speculating but I like their chances of getting CBs lower in the rounds better than getting a functioning rookie DE lower down. ... by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 19 posts Apr 24 2024
by /zn/ 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 6764 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #9 Last edited by /zn/ on Sep 13 2019, edited 2 times in total. Dick84 wrote:That's why I floated the Gaines/Joseph thing.. I think first down.. if it's not the Gaines/Noteboom thing... we see Smart in there. Just more built for run-D.. Fox rotating in a bunch. Yup.. gonna have to use at least a second rounder, imo, on a Dline guy to replace Brockers. Probably have to bring in a cheap vet as well.My hesitation there is the idea of a 6'1 DE in a 3/4 base. And that's going against one of the 2-3 best ROTs in the league, one of the few good ones who can actually play LOT. This may be a moot point since Ramcyzk shut out Watt. So they can beat the Saints but not by dominating the right side of their OL. Which therefore...is not going to be the plan. Whoever plays left DE is probably going just be a sacrificed figure trying to create space for Matthews. Anyway Saints aside, this wasn't supposed to be what happened...just putting the obvious down in black and white, but, Franklin-Myers was supposed to take the next step. It was supposed to be Brockers doing better, backed up by F-M. My guess based on reading various things is that F-M added weight to be a more traditional 3/4 DE and the result was he wasn't as athletic, and maybe even got discouraged. He was immediately picked up by a 4/3 team and probably really is more of a (left-side) 4/3 DE.I've heard that Fox added some weight too (deliberately) so who knows about that. Yeah 2nd rounder or even a 1st rounder maybe. Just speculating but I like their chances of getting CBs lower in the rounds better than getting a functioning rookie DE lower down. ... by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 19 posts Apr 24 2024
by PARAM 4 years 7 months ago Total posts: 12247 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Brockers dinged up POST #10 Jonathan Franklin Myers seemed like a possible replacement for Brockers but he's with the Jets now IIRC. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business