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 by /zn/
5 days ago
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United States of America   Maine
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buffed wrote:Before his 2018 shoulder injury, David Edwards had a 1 - 2-round grade.


I looked at draft rankings for Edwards too from before the season and so from before playing hurt in 2018. In the top 100 lists I saw, he was anywhere from 53 to 21, depending on the list. Some people at the time of the draft didn't realize that he was playing ROT for a lefty qb so protecting the blind side.

Some samples.
2019 NFL Draft: Here’s a super-early look at the top 100 prospects
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/new ... prospects/

40. David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin

Top 150 college football players to watch in 2018: Nos. 1-50
By Chad Reuter
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... 18-nos-150

43. David Edwards – OT
School: Wisconsin | Year: Junior (RS)
Looking at Edwards now, it’s tough to picture him as the option quarterback he was in high school. He’s filled out his frame, and that’s paid major dividends, as he’s strong enough to handle bull rushes and still agile enough to reach linebackers to break open big runs for Jonathan Taylor and the rest of the Badgers’ running back crew.

2019 NFL draft rankings
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft ... r-lawrence

21. David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin
Wisconsin has the most talented offensive line in college football, and its packed with NFL players. Edwards, Wisconsin’s right tackle, is the best draft eligible player of the bunch. Edwards is a powerful run blocker and loves to finish plays.

2019 NFL Draft Prospects
link: https://www.nfldraftgeek.com/100-days-o ... prospects/

53. David Edwards OT Wisconsin
Today’s #100Days of #NFLDraft Prospects looks at Wisconsin’s David Edwards and why he is considered an elite tackle prospect #Badgers https://t.co/4id1sGBgOW

PRESEASON 2019 NFL DRAFT BIG BOARD
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/le ... -big-board

25. DAVID EDWARDS, OT, WISCONSIN

NFL Draft 2019: Early look at top five offensive linemen
https://n.rivals.com/news/nfl-draft-201 ... ve-linemen

4. DAVID EDWARDS, WISCONSIN

A Very Early Look at the Potential Top 10 Picks
By ALBERT BREER July 11, 2018
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/07/11/2019- ... tt-stidham

TEN MORE PLAYERS TO WATCH
David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin: He may have been the best right tackle in America last year, and he considered declaring for the draft.

 by Legends
4 days ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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I think Kromers key to potentially good o-line men. He seems to look for intelligence. Look at some of the guys he has picked and their background in school. He also looks closely at schools like TCU, Baylor, OK, and Wisconsin. Could also be contacts at the school. (Very Important)

 by Elvis
4 days ago
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I'm sure i sound like a broken record but coaching, scheme and QB play are the key. Not that Oline doesn't matter but you can succeed with fairly diverse groups of different kinds of Olinemen obtained in a variety of ways when you have good coaching, good scheme and good QB play whereas the opposite is also true, you can fail with all different types of Oline groups when you don't have those things...

 by PARAM
3 days ago
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AvengerRam wrote:Let's just make sure nobody steals OL coach Aaron Kromer from us!


AK is the key with the OL. Taking lower round guys and coaching them up is directly on Kromer.

But it goes beyond the OL. And it has a lot to do with building a strong roster and then planning into the future for replacements. You can afford to redshirt (so to speak) players because your roster is solid. You aren't drafting for the now as much as for next year or the year after. You don't need your first and second round picks to play right away. Plus the lower round picks are cheaper and probably less likely to get huge free agent offers down the road. It works as long as you don't screw up evaluating a player (or two) and as long as major injury to major players doesn't occur. And as long as you can extend players before they hit free agency.

It's astounding how fast McVay & Co. have turned the Rams into a solid team with a solid roster with solid replacements waiting in the wings.

 by /zn/
3 days ago
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Elvis wrote:I'm sure i sound like a broken record but coaching, scheme and QB play are the key. Not that Oline doesn't matter but you can succeed with fairly diverse groups of different kinds of Olinemen obtained in a variety of ways when you have good coaching, good scheme and good QB play whereas the opposite is also true, you can fail with all different types of Oline groups when you don't have those things...


Well there is such a thing as a good OL on a team that doesn't have the qb. That's not a winning formula, obviously, but if you look at OL play in its own right, you can see things like that. Obviously at the same time, with a good qb and scheme your OL doesn't have to be top of the rankings. When you have all 3 things it's going to thrive. So yes Brees can throw against anyone but then at the same time last Sunday his monster ROT shut out Watt.

Given that you can put together a very good OL--meaning a good OL measured in its own terms regardless of other factors--that doesn't necessarily include high picks. It's common knowledge that OL is one of the places where a less athletic low round pick can just get coached into being a good player. Good in his own right, regardless of other factors. If he's not on a good team it will not be as noticed. You can get guys like Nutten, who seems like he was this low-round cast-off but then just due to his mentality and dedication and technique, ended up silencing Warren Sapp in the 99 chamionship game.

Edwards on the other hand is not really a low-round pick though he fell. He was a well-regarded player who fell because he played hurt. It's going to be a lot easier to keep stocking this OL if they already have the future tackles.

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 by Dick84
3 days ago
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Elvis wrote:I'm sure i sound like a broken record but coaching, scheme and QB play are the key. Not that Oline doesn't matter but you can succeed with fairly diverse groups of different kinds of Olinemen obtained in a variety of ways when you have good coaching, good scheme and good QB play whereas the opposite is also true, you can fail with all different types of Oline groups when you don't have those things...


I do think scheme is incredibly critical.

I hope we’re right on the young guys.. because if they don’t have to spend high draft picks on oline, they can spend them on Dline.. where they’ll be needed.

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