by HopHead Ram 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #11 Somebody please tell me what I am missing with Morris as the DC. I just don't see it. What is it about him that has you excited? Was it that feared Atlanta Defense that finished 19th? I would rather one of our internal guys get the nod and build upon what was implemented last year. Just having AD and JR on your defense isn't enough. If you don't scheme for them to succeed , we may get some decent individual play from them but the supporting cast will suffer. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" by Kid Charlamagne 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #12 Elvis liked this post There are openings every year so clearly whatever criteria they’re using needs revising. The search area gets wider and wider, but they still can’t find any candidates, you used to have to be a coordinator with nfl experience but not anymore. Reid and McVay have both sent several guys into head coaching jobs and none of them called plays and it’s not any better in college. We have to remember that professional and college sports were segregated until not that long ago and there were rational explanations all along the way. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #13 TOPIC AUTHOR Lancer liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:There are openings every year so clearly whatever criteria they’re using needs revising. The search area gets wider and wider, but they still can’t find any candidates, you used to have to be a coordinator with nfl experience but not anymore. Reid and McVay have both sent several guys into head coaching jobs and none of them called plays and it’s not any better in college. We have to remember that professional and college sports were segregated until not that long ago and there were rational explanations all along the way.yep, and the notion to give it a few more years to see how it plays out doesn't fly imo, the article i posted was from two years ago and it's just as bad, or worse even, now, with staley being exhibit a. 1 by moklerman 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #14 azramsfan93, VegasRam liked this post I have yet to see any proof that ANYONE is being denied a job because of their skin color. The NFL is all about equality of opportunity. Do a good job and you will find a job. Show me the young, black coordinator that had the #1 defense, or offense or special teams that was denied an interview because of his skin color.An inequality inout come does NOT mean an inequality of opportunity. And even if equality of outcome was the goal, what percentage would be acceptable? Estimates are that 70% of NFL players are black. Should we be writing articles about how unbalanced that is? Or should we let the best players play? I mean, 76% of the US population is white so we must need to balance those books, right? I mean, that's the same argument, isn't it?I'm beyond sick of this race-baiting bullshit. There are minority owners, minority GM's, minority HC's, etc. NONE of them are being refused opportunities or jobs because of their skin color. The NFL doesn't have a problem. They are the most socially conscious business out there and then continually bend over backwards to encourage and promote minorities. Anyone that doesn't see that just has an agenda. The NFL LOOOOVES minority hires. Whether it's black, brown, yellow...women. They WANT that. It's ludicrous to even suggest that black coaches are being held back because of their skin color. If they aren't getting jobs or opportunities, it's because they just aren't as good. 2 by AvengerRam 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #15 To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions? by Haden 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #16 St. Loser Fan liked this post The topic is rubbish. 1 by max 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #17 AvengerRam wrote:To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions?I get it. There are two sides to this. The NFL bottomline is about meritocracy. Teams want to win (for the most part). But at the league level they are sensitive to the race issue.There are people who will push race as hard as they can and look at almost every opportunity that isn't filled by a minority candidate as proof that minorities are being discriminated against. That's fine. It's fine to push an agenda hard when it's an important issue, even to an extreme. The owners know they need to consider race in their job hunts. But winning takes precedence. The fact that minority QBs like Mahomes, Watson, and Wilson are at the top of the QB list, and that every owner wishes they had one of them, means that winning is taking precedence, and race discrimination is not part of it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #18 How long before this thread gets locked? by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Gareth liked this post not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it? 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Apr 18 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Kid Charlamagne 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 533 Joined: Aug 25 2016 LA Coliseum Veteran NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #12 Elvis liked this post There are openings every year so clearly whatever criteria they’re using needs revising. The search area gets wider and wider, but they still can’t find any candidates, you used to have to be a coordinator with nfl experience but not anymore. Reid and McVay have both sent several guys into head coaching jobs and none of them called plays and it’s not any better in college. We have to remember that professional and college sports were segregated until not that long ago and there were rational explanations all along the way. 1 by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #13 TOPIC AUTHOR Lancer liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:There are openings every year so clearly whatever criteria they’re using needs revising. The search area gets wider and wider, but they still can’t find any candidates, you used to have to be a coordinator with nfl experience but not anymore. Reid and McVay have both sent several guys into head coaching jobs and none of them called plays and it’s not any better in college. We have to remember that professional and college sports were segregated until not that long ago and there were rational explanations all along the way.yep, and the notion to give it a few more years to see how it plays out doesn't fly imo, the article i posted was from two years ago and it's just as bad, or worse even, now, with staley being exhibit a. 1 by moklerman 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #14 azramsfan93, VegasRam liked this post I have yet to see any proof that ANYONE is being denied a job because of their skin color. The NFL is all about equality of opportunity. Do a good job and you will find a job. Show me the young, black coordinator that had the #1 defense, or offense or special teams that was denied an interview because of his skin color.An inequality inout come does NOT mean an inequality of opportunity. And even if equality of outcome was the goal, what percentage would be acceptable? Estimates are that 70% of NFL players are black. Should we be writing articles about how unbalanced that is? Or should we let the best players play? I mean, 76% of the US population is white so we must need to balance those books, right? I mean, that's the same argument, isn't it?I'm beyond sick of this race-baiting bullshit. There are minority owners, minority GM's, minority HC's, etc. NONE of them are being refused opportunities or jobs because of their skin color. The NFL doesn't have a problem. They are the most socially conscious business out there and then continually bend over backwards to encourage and promote minorities. Anyone that doesn't see that just has an agenda. The NFL LOOOOVES minority hires. Whether it's black, brown, yellow...women. They WANT that. It's ludicrous to even suggest that black coaches are being held back because of their skin color. If they aren't getting jobs or opportunities, it's because they just aren't as good. 2 by AvengerRam 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #15 To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions? by Haden 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #16 St. Loser Fan liked this post The topic is rubbish. 1 by max 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #17 AvengerRam wrote:To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions?I get it. There are two sides to this. The NFL bottomline is about meritocracy. Teams want to win (for the most part). But at the league level they are sensitive to the race issue.There are people who will push race as hard as they can and look at almost every opportunity that isn't filled by a minority candidate as proof that minorities are being discriminated against. That's fine. It's fine to push an agenda hard when it's an important issue, even to an extreme. The owners know they need to consider race in their job hunts. But winning takes precedence. The fact that minority QBs like Mahomes, Watson, and Wilson are at the top of the QB list, and that every owner wishes they had one of them, means that winning is taking precedence, and race discrimination is not part of it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #18 How long before this thread gets locked? by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Gareth liked this post not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it? 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Apr 18 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #13 TOPIC AUTHOR Lancer liked this post Kid Charlamagne wrote:There are openings every year so clearly whatever criteria they’re using needs revising. The search area gets wider and wider, but they still can’t find any candidates, you used to have to be a coordinator with nfl experience but not anymore. Reid and McVay have both sent several guys into head coaching jobs and none of them called plays and it’s not any better in college. We have to remember that professional and college sports were segregated until not that long ago and there were rational explanations all along the way.yep, and the notion to give it a few more years to see how it plays out doesn't fly imo, the article i posted was from two years ago and it's just as bad, or worse even, now, with staley being exhibit a. 1 by moklerman 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #14 azramsfan93, VegasRam liked this post I have yet to see any proof that ANYONE is being denied a job because of their skin color. The NFL is all about equality of opportunity. Do a good job and you will find a job. Show me the young, black coordinator that had the #1 defense, or offense or special teams that was denied an interview because of his skin color.An inequality inout come does NOT mean an inequality of opportunity. And even if equality of outcome was the goal, what percentage would be acceptable? Estimates are that 70% of NFL players are black. Should we be writing articles about how unbalanced that is? Or should we let the best players play? I mean, 76% of the US population is white so we must need to balance those books, right? I mean, that's the same argument, isn't it?I'm beyond sick of this race-baiting bullshit. There are minority owners, minority GM's, minority HC's, etc. NONE of them are being refused opportunities or jobs because of their skin color. The NFL doesn't have a problem. They are the most socially conscious business out there and then continually bend over backwards to encourage and promote minorities. Anyone that doesn't see that just has an agenda. The NFL LOOOOVES minority hires. Whether it's black, brown, yellow...women. They WANT that. It's ludicrous to even suggest that black coaches are being held back because of their skin color. If they aren't getting jobs or opportunities, it's because they just aren't as good. 2 by AvengerRam 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #15 To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions? by Haden 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #16 St. Loser Fan liked this post The topic is rubbish. 1 by max 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #17 AvengerRam wrote:To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions?I get it. There are two sides to this. The NFL bottomline is about meritocracy. Teams want to win (for the most part). But at the league level they are sensitive to the race issue.There are people who will push race as hard as they can and look at almost every opportunity that isn't filled by a minority candidate as proof that minorities are being discriminated against. That's fine. It's fine to push an agenda hard when it's an important issue, even to an extreme. The owners know they need to consider race in their job hunts. But winning takes precedence. The fact that minority QBs like Mahomes, Watson, and Wilson are at the top of the QB list, and that every owner wishes they had one of them, means that winning is taking precedence, and race discrimination is not part of it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #18 How long before this thread gets locked? by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Gareth liked this post not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it? 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Apr 18 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by moklerman 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #14 azramsfan93, VegasRam liked this post I have yet to see any proof that ANYONE is being denied a job because of their skin color. The NFL is all about equality of opportunity. Do a good job and you will find a job. Show me the young, black coordinator that had the #1 defense, or offense or special teams that was denied an interview because of his skin color.An inequality inout come does NOT mean an inequality of opportunity. And even if equality of outcome was the goal, what percentage would be acceptable? Estimates are that 70% of NFL players are black. Should we be writing articles about how unbalanced that is? Or should we let the best players play? I mean, 76% of the US population is white so we must need to balance those books, right? I mean, that's the same argument, isn't it?I'm beyond sick of this race-baiting bullshit. There are minority owners, minority GM's, minority HC's, etc. NONE of them are being refused opportunities or jobs because of their skin color. The NFL doesn't have a problem. They are the most socially conscious business out there and then continually bend over backwards to encourage and promote minorities. Anyone that doesn't see that just has an agenda. The NFL LOOOOVES minority hires. Whether it's black, brown, yellow...women. They WANT that. It's ludicrous to even suggest that black coaches are being held back because of their skin color. If they aren't getting jobs or opportunities, it's because they just aren't as good. 2 by AvengerRam 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #15 To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions? by Haden 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #16 St. Loser Fan liked this post The topic is rubbish. 1 by max 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #17 AvengerRam wrote:To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions?I get it. There are two sides to this. The NFL bottomline is about meritocracy. Teams want to win (for the most part). But at the league level they are sensitive to the race issue.There are people who will push race as hard as they can and look at almost every opportunity that isn't filled by a minority candidate as proof that minorities are being discriminated against. That's fine. It's fine to push an agenda hard when it's an important issue, even to an extreme. The owners know they need to consider race in their job hunts. But winning takes precedence. The fact that minority QBs like Mahomes, Watson, and Wilson are at the top of the QB list, and that every owner wishes they had one of them, means that winning is taking precedence, and race discrimination is not part of it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #18 How long before this thread gets locked? by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Gareth liked this post not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it? 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Apr 18 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by AvengerRam 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 8686 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Lake Mary, Florida Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #15 To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions? by Haden 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #16 St. Loser Fan liked this post The topic is rubbish. 1 by max 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #17 AvengerRam wrote:To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions?I get it. There are two sides to this. The NFL bottomline is about meritocracy. Teams want to win (for the most part). But at the league level they are sensitive to the race issue.There are people who will push race as hard as they can and look at almost every opportunity that isn't filled by a minority candidate as proof that minorities are being discriminated against. That's fine. It's fine to push an agenda hard when it's an important issue, even to an extreme. The owners know they need to consider race in their job hunts. But winning takes precedence. The fact that minority QBs like Mahomes, Watson, and Wilson are at the top of the QB list, and that every owner wishes they had one of them, means that winning is taking precedence, and race discrimination is not part of it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #18 How long before this thread gets locked? by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Gareth liked this post not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it? 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Apr 18 2024
by Haden 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 2134 Joined: Sep 06 2016 Spokane, WA RFU Survivor Champ Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #16 St. Loser Fan liked this post The topic is rubbish. 1 by max 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #17 AvengerRam wrote:To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions?I get it. There are two sides to this. The NFL bottomline is about meritocracy. Teams want to win (for the most part). But at the league level they are sensitive to the race issue.There are people who will push race as hard as they can and look at almost every opportunity that isn't filled by a minority candidate as proof that minorities are being discriminated against. That's fine. It's fine to push an agenda hard when it's an important issue, even to an extreme. The owners know they need to consider race in their job hunts. But winning takes precedence. The fact that minority QBs like Mahomes, Watson, and Wilson are at the top of the QB list, and that every owner wishes they had one of them, means that winning is taking precedence, and race discrimination is not part of it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #18 How long before this thread gets locked? by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Gareth liked this post not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it? 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Apr 18 2024
by max 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5580 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #17 AvengerRam wrote:To review... the Chargers hired an African-American HC. After two winning seasons, and one playoff appearance (one win), he had two consecutive losing seasons, and was fired. They then hire Staley.This is evidence of racism (or some nebulous concept of “white privilege”) in HC hiring decisions?I get it. There are two sides to this. The NFL bottomline is about meritocracy. Teams want to win (for the most part). But at the league level they are sensitive to the race issue.There are people who will push race as hard as they can and look at almost every opportunity that isn't filled by a minority candidate as proof that minorities are being discriminated against. That's fine. It's fine to push an agenda hard when it's an important issue, even to an extreme. The owners know they need to consider race in their job hunts. But winning takes precedence. The fact that minority QBs like Mahomes, Watson, and Wilson are at the top of the QB list, and that every owner wishes they had one of them, means that winning is taking precedence, and race discrimination is not part of it. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #18 How long before this thread gets locked? by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Gareth liked this post not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it? 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Apr 18 2024
by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #18 How long before this thread gets locked? by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Gareth liked this post not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it? 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Apr 18 2024
by aeneas1 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #19 TOPIC AUTHOR Gareth liked this post not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it? 1 by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 75 posts Apr 18 2024
by St. Loser Fan 3 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame NO BLACK "GENIUS" COACHES? POST #20 aeneas1 wrote:not seeing the issue is not wanting to see the issue, it's glaringly evident... the question is how to fix it, or how to muster the commitment to fix it?There no way to fix it and far too many people don’t see it as a problem. Reply 2 / 8 1 2 8 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business