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 by rams74
1 week ago
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 Joined:  Nov 19 2015
Italy   Glendale, Arizona
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R4L wrote:Let's not put Goff back in the hall in Fame just yet. The cards defense is terrible against the pass.


O ye of little faith.

 by R4L
1 week ago
 Total posts:   815  
 Joined:  May 08 2017
United States of America   Dayton, Ohio
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rams74 wrote:O ye of little faith.


I wanna have faith but he has not taken the next step like we all (most) expected.

 by ramsman34
1 week ago
 Total posts:   3491  
 Joined:  Apr 16 2015
United States of America   Enemy Territory - Seattle
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Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.

 by PARAM
1 week ago
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 Joined:  Jul 15 2015
Barbados   Just far enough North of Philadelphia
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ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.


How much did our offense wake up in the desert? In the first 7 drives we had 3 TDs, 2 FGs, 1 missed FG and 1 punt. We had 13 plays of 15 yards or more (10 of them going for 20 or more and a total of 19 going for 10 yards or more). IIRC, I heard the yardage the Rams put up in the first half was the most in one half by any team in any game this year. Sure it was the Arizona Cardinals but they are still an NFL team who had played 11 other games where that didn't happen. Jared Goff looked real good. Hopefully, we can keep up the offensive prowess in the last 4 games of the season vs better competition.

 by snackdaddy
1 week ago
 Total posts:   5887  
 Joined:  May 30 2015
United States of America   Merced California
Hall of Fame

ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.


If people think Goff is THE problem, they have not been watching the 2019 LA Rams. Goff is struggling, but the whole offense has been struggling. Including the coach. When they improve he improves.

I know people say he got paid he should make up for the shortcomings. But it doesn't work that way. And that thought is very short sighted.

 by Dick84
1 week ago
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 Joined:  Oct 29 2015
Italy   LA Coliseum
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ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.


If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances.

 by moklerman
1 week ago
 Total posts:   5424  
 Joined:  Apr 17 2015
United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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Dick84 wrote:If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances.
I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.

Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.

 by AvengerRam
1 week ago
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Israel   Longwood, FL
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moklerman wrote:I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.

Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.

If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.

If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.

 by moklerman
1 week ago
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United States of America   Bakersfield, CA
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AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.

If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.
I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.

 by Hacksaw
1 week ago
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 Joined:  Apr 15 2015
United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.

Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.

I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though.
Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo

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