by rams74 1 week ago Total posts: 774 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Veteran Goff is a problem POST #251 R4L liked this post R4L wrote:Let's not put Goff back in the hall in Fame just yet. The cards defense is terrible against the pass.O ye of little faith. 1 by R4L 1 week ago Total posts: 815 Joined: May 08 2017 Dayton, Ohio Veteran Goff is a problem POST #252 rams74 wrote:O ye of little faith.I wanna have faith but he has not taken the next step like we all (most) expected. by ramsman34 1 week ago Total posts: 3491 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Enemy Territory - Seattle Superstar Re: Goff is a problem POST #253 /zn/ liked this post Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by PARAM 1 week ago Total posts: 3954 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Superstar Goff is a problem POST #254 ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.How much did our offense wake up in the desert? In the first 7 drives we had 3 TDs, 2 FGs, 1 missed FG and 1 punt. We had 13 plays of 15 yards or more (10 of them going for 20 or more and a total of 19 going for 10 yards or more). IIRC, I heard the yardage the Rams put up in the first half was the most in one half by any team in any game this year. Sure it was the Arizona Cardinals but they are still an NFL team who had played 11 other games where that didn't happen. Jared Goff looked real good. Hopefully, we can keep up the offensive prowess in the last 4 games of the season vs better competition. by snackdaddy 1 week ago Total posts: 5887 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #255 ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If people think Goff is THE problem, they have not been watching the 2019 LA Rams. Goff is struggling, but the whole offense has been struggling. Including the coach. When they improve he improves. I know people say he got paid he should make up for the shortcomings. But it doesn't work that way. And that thought is very short sighted. by Dick84 1 week ago Total posts: 4666 Joined: Oct 29 2015 LA Coliseum Superstar Goff is a problem POST #256 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #257 Hacksaw liked this post Dick84 wrote:If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances.I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement. 1 by AvengerRam 1 week ago Total posts: 3415 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Longwood, FL RFU Fantasy Football Champ Goff is a problem POST #258 Ramsdude liked this post moklerman wrote:I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #259 AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered. by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look 303 posts Dec 13 2019 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by R4L 1 week ago Total posts: 815 Joined: May 08 2017 Dayton, Ohio Veteran Goff is a problem POST #252 rams74 wrote:O ye of little faith.I wanna have faith but he has not taken the next step like we all (most) expected. by ramsman34 1 week ago Total posts: 3491 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Enemy Territory - Seattle Superstar Re: Goff is a problem POST #253 /zn/ liked this post Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by PARAM 1 week ago Total posts: 3954 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Superstar Goff is a problem POST #254 ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.How much did our offense wake up in the desert? In the first 7 drives we had 3 TDs, 2 FGs, 1 missed FG and 1 punt. We had 13 plays of 15 yards or more (10 of them going for 20 or more and a total of 19 going for 10 yards or more). IIRC, I heard the yardage the Rams put up in the first half was the most in one half by any team in any game this year. Sure it was the Arizona Cardinals but they are still an NFL team who had played 11 other games where that didn't happen. Jared Goff looked real good. Hopefully, we can keep up the offensive prowess in the last 4 games of the season vs better competition. by snackdaddy 1 week ago Total posts: 5887 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #255 ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If people think Goff is THE problem, they have not been watching the 2019 LA Rams. Goff is struggling, but the whole offense has been struggling. Including the coach. When they improve he improves. I know people say he got paid he should make up for the shortcomings. But it doesn't work that way. And that thought is very short sighted. by Dick84 1 week ago Total posts: 4666 Joined: Oct 29 2015 LA Coliseum Superstar Goff is a problem POST #256 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #257 Hacksaw liked this post Dick84 wrote:If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances.I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement. 1 by AvengerRam 1 week ago Total posts: 3415 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Longwood, FL RFU Fantasy Football Champ Goff is a problem POST #258 Ramsdude liked this post moklerman wrote:I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #259 AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered. by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look 303 posts Dec 13 2019 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by ramsman34 1 week ago Total posts: 3491 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Enemy Territory - Seattle Superstar Re: Goff is a problem POST #253 /zn/ liked this post Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by PARAM 1 week ago Total posts: 3954 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Superstar Goff is a problem POST #254 ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.How much did our offense wake up in the desert? In the first 7 drives we had 3 TDs, 2 FGs, 1 missed FG and 1 punt. We had 13 plays of 15 yards or more (10 of them going for 20 or more and a total of 19 going for 10 yards or more). IIRC, I heard the yardage the Rams put up in the first half was the most in one half by any team in any game this year. Sure it was the Arizona Cardinals but they are still an NFL team who had played 11 other games where that didn't happen. Jared Goff looked real good. Hopefully, we can keep up the offensive prowess in the last 4 games of the season vs better competition. by snackdaddy 1 week ago Total posts: 5887 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #255 ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If people think Goff is THE problem, they have not been watching the 2019 LA Rams. Goff is struggling, but the whole offense has been struggling. Including the coach. When they improve he improves. I know people say he got paid he should make up for the shortcomings. But it doesn't work that way. And that thought is very short sighted. by Dick84 1 week ago Total posts: 4666 Joined: Oct 29 2015 LA Coliseum Superstar Goff is a problem POST #256 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #257 Hacksaw liked this post Dick84 wrote:If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances.I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement. 1 by AvengerRam 1 week ago Total posts: 3415 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Longwood, FL RFU Fantasy Football Champ Goff is a problem POST #258 Ramsdude liked this post moklerman wrote:I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #259 AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered. by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look 303 posts Dec 13 2019 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by PARAM 1 week ago Total posts: 3954 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Superstar Goff is a problem POST #254 ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.How much did our offense wake up in the desert? In the first 7 drives we had 3 TDs, 2 FGs, 1 missed FG and 1 punt. We had 13 plays of 15 yards or more (10 of them going for 20 or more and a total of 19 going for 10 yards or more). IIRC, I heard the yardage the Rams put up in the first half was the most in one half by any team in any game this year. Sure it was the Arizona Cardinals but they are still an NFL team who had played 11 other games where that didn't happen. Jared Goff looked real good. Hopefully, we can keep up the offensive prowess in the last 4 games of the season vs better competition. by snackdaddy 1 week ago Total posts: 5887 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #255 ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If people think Goff is THE problem, they have not been watching the 2019 LA Rams. Goff is struggling, but the whole offense has been struggling. Including the coach. When they improve he improves. I know people say he got paid he should make up for the shortcomings. But it doesn't work that way. And that thought is very short sighted. by Dick84 1 week ago Total posts: 4666 Joined: Oct 29 2015 LA Coliseum Superstar Goff is a problem POST #256 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #257 Hacksaw liked this post Dick84 wrote:If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances.I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement. 1 by AvengerRam 1 week ago Total posts: 3415 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Longwood, FL RFU Fantasy Football Champ Goff is a problem POST #258 Ramsdude liked this post moklerman wrote:I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #259 AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered. by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look 303 posts Dec 13 2019 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by snackdaddy 1 week ago Total posts: 5887 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #255 ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If people think Goff is THE problem, they have not been watching the 2019 LA Rams. Goff is struggling, but the whole offense has been struggling. Including the coach. When they improve he improves. I know people say he got paid he should make up for the shortcomings. But it doesn't work that way. And that thought is very short sighted. by Dick84 1 week ago Total posts: 4666 Joined: Oct 29 2015 LA Coliseum Superstar Goff is a problem POST #256 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #257 Hacksaw liked this post Dick84 wrote:If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances.I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement. 1 by AvengerRam 1 week ago Total posts: 3415 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Longwood, FL RFU Fantasy Football Champ Goff is a problem POST #258 Ramsdude liked this post moklerman wrote:I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #259 AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered. by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look 303 posts Dec 13 2019
by Dick84 1 week ago Total posts: 4666 Joined: Oct 29 2015 LA Coliseum Superstar Goff is a problem POST #256 TOPIC AUTHOR moklerman liked this post ramsman34 wrote:Goff ain’t the problem. Sorry, just a fallacy. He CRUSHES when he has decent time. Not all day, just decent time. If you can’t see that...well, you don’t see the field at all.If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #257 Hacksaw liked this post Dick84 wrote:If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances.I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement. 1 by AvengerRam 1 week ago Total posts: 3415 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Longwood, FL RFU Fantasy Football Champ Goff is a problem POST #258 Ramsdude liked this post moklerman wrote:I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #259 AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered. by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look 303 posts Dec 13 2019
by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #257 Hacksaw liked this post Dick84 wrote:If he’s taking care of the ball, he’s not a problem. And turnovers are often a direct result of pressure. But he has made some ridiculously bad throws this season. The Pittsburgh Int to start the second half was disastrous, especially under the game circumstances.I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement. 1 by AvengerRam 1 week ago Total posts: 3415 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Longwood, FL RFU Fantasy Football Champ Goff is a problem POST #258 Ramsdude liked this post moklerman wrote:I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #259 AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered. by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look 303 posts Dec 13 2019
by AvengerRam 1 week ago Total posts: 3415 Joined: Oct 03 2017 Longwood, FL RFU Fantasy Football Champ Goff is a problem POST #258 Ramsdude liked this post moklerman wrote:I think it would be a very short list of people who have argued that Goff is "the" problem. That is an extreme POV that is hard to support. Conversely, saying he is not a problem at all is just as hard to support.Goff has left a lot of positive plays on the field and needs to play better than he has. That should not be a controversial statement.If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement. 1 by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #259 AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered. by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look 303 posts Dec 13 2019
by moklerman 1 week ago Total posts: 5424 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Goff is a problem POST #259 AvengerRam wrote:If, by using the word "problem," the assertion that Goff needs to play better, I doubt there is anyone who would disagree.If the word "problem" is used as a precursor to assertions that Goff should not have been extended or, in the most extreme example, should be replaced, I'd say there is substantial disagreement.I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered. by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look 303 posts Dec 13 2019
by Hacksaw 1 week ago Total posts: 15909 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Goff is a problem POST #260 moklerman wrote:I don't think anyone has said that Goff should not have been extended "period". Just that his extension was premature and made without as much information as could have been gathered.Agreed. Might end up saving us $$$ down the road but they could have chosen a less risky time.I dont ever recall seeing a player who got his big payday suddenly improve as a result. I have seen a few regress, press, overcompensate or generally relax afterwards though. Seemed like this particular player coming off a neutered thrashing on the biggest stage, should have gotten a few more reps first. jmo THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF, WAS Reply 26 / 31 1 26 31 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL NFL Draft Other Sports Memorabilia and Market Place Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business RFU Graphics RFU Forum - New Look