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 by max
3 weeks ago
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United States of America   New York Metro
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Dick84 wrote:I’ll disagree.


I’ll disagree with your disagreement whatever it is.

 by VegasRam
3 weeks ago
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 Joined:  Jul 14 2015
United States of America   Las Vegas
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I want to know why we are not seeing more Josh Reynolds.

 by dieterbrock
3 weeks ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
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/zn/ wrote:Fwiw I've known Max for a long time.

You say that like it’s a good thing.

 by /zn/
3 weeks ago
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United States of America   Maine
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max wrote:Yes. I’ve said that. All I’m adding is that it’s early information and things can change quickly after just 2 games.

I’m certainly not denying the early reports aren’t sterling for Henderson. I’m not the one saying they’re ridiculous to consider. That’s coming from others.


I know. I was agreeing with you.

 by /zn/
3 weeks ago
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United States of America   Maine
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VegasRam wrote:I want to know why we are not seeing more Josh Reynolds.


He seems to be not taking the next step.

Yeah it's early but you would think he would be pushing himself to grab an opportunity and yet that's not what he appears to be doing.

 by Elvis
3 weeks ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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/zn/ wrote:There's info though. VB says Henderson is slow to catch on when it comes to doing what is needed to succeed at this level. Again VB is not going to say something like that about a player unless he has good reason. That doesn't write DH off, and it's not "worrying" to note that. It's just a detail to add to the mix.


Going into week 1 Vinny said there would be packages for DH and he expected 9 to 12 touches per game for Henderson.

Do we think Vinny had a good reason for saying that?

 by BobCarl
3 weeks ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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aeneas1 wrote:eh? a more accurate take seems to be that some fans form such ridiculous rookie expectations that they become unhinged when a guy, a 3rd rounder no less, doesn't light up the league out of the gates or, even worse, fret over a 3rd rounder as if he's a guy a team mortgaged their future for in order to move up to the first round to get.


there's no sign that these guys have the ability to become quality nflers? really? no signs at all? really ?


Isaac Bruce himself said that his first 8 game's as a rookie he wasn't catching on. Then it clicked.. from then on the rest of his career was running with the wind

 by Dick84
3 weeks ago
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Again... this is all a product of Max holding fast on his position that the Rams trading out of the first round was a mistake.

First, in the past, he opined that Rapp wasn’t a “difference maker”... well, he’s making plays and is in the field more than the “starter”. That would be about your most reasonable expectation of a late first rounder on a team coming off a Super Bowl appearance.

The “value” the Rams got for trading down was part of the value used to pick up Henderson... see where this is going?

Pat Kirwin likes to say you need to get 2 starters out of every draft.. not immediate starters.

Without a second round pick, the Rams already have one, going on the “impression” thing, likely have another in Edwards... and have Evans and Long, who they can “redshirt” and prepare to be future starters.

They also have Gaines and Henderson to develop as rotational guys.

They also found a gem UDFA in Webster.

So... it seems they are doing okay.

 by max
3 weeks ago
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United States of America   New York Metro
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Elvis wrote:Going into week 1 Vinny said there would be packages for DH and he expected 9 to 12 touches per game for Henderson.

Do we think Vinny had a good reason for saying that?


Vinny has a few very close sources (coaches) that he gets inside info from. He guards the names.

Apparently, DH wasn’t ready in McVays mind.

 by max
3 weeks ago
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United States of America   New York Metro
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Dick84 wrote:Again... this is all a product of Max holding fast on his position that the Rams trading out of the first round was a mistake.

First, in the past, he opined that Rapp wasn’t a “difference maker”... well, he’s making plays and is in the field more than the “starter”. That would be about your most reasonable expectation of a late first rounder on a team coming off a Super Bowl appearance.

The “value” the Rams got for trading down was part of the value used to pick up Henderson... see where this is going?

Pat Kirwin likes to say you need to get 2 starters out of every draft.. not immediate starters.

Without a second round pick, the Rams already have one, going on the “impression” thing, likely have another in Edwards... and have Evans and Long, who they can “redshirt” and prepare to be future starters.

They also have Gaines and Henderson to develop as rotational guys.

They also found a gem UDFA in Webster.

So... it seems they are doing okay.


I don’t recall saying specifically that Rapp wasn’t a difference maker.

I thought he was a borderline first rounder.

I generally like how Snead manages the draft. He’s a bit of a wild man the way he navigates it, but I like being more aggressive than passive.

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