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by  /zn/   Apr 01 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Bonsignore: NFL Mock Draft with one month to go has Tunsil No. 1, Rams trading up   Replies: 68   Views: 5066

I don't buy the Parcells line, though a COACH should say that. A coach should look at his team and say "your record is your verdict." But a fan/analyst IMO should be cautious about saying that. Records aren't always verdicts, they're sometimes symptoms. Approached that way a record is some...

by  /zn/   Mar 30 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Bonsignore: NFL Mock Draft with one month to go has Tunsil No. 1, Rams trading up   Replies: 68   Views: 5066

20 were from picks 1-12, and of those, 12 were hits. 60%. Again, criteria is hanging around the NFL and starting for a while right? QB's taken in the top 12, 2004-14 Bortles (too soon to tell) Luck (check) Griffen (nope) Tannehill (sure give him a check) Newton (check) Locker (nope) Gabbert (nope) ...

by  /zn/   Mar 30 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Bonsignore: NFL Mock Draft with one month to go has Tunsil No. 1, Rams trading up   Replies: 68   Views: 5066

I count as a "hit" a living breathing active continuing starter. "Hit" is for me a minimal term...it's hit v. bust/back-up, as opposed to any other consideration (like where picked and whether it includes bad years and the current ranking of the player v. other starters etc.). I...

by  /zn/   Mar 30 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Bonsignore: NFL Mock Draft with one month to go has Tunsil No. 1, Rams trading up   Replies: 68   Views: 5066

Fwiw to offer a more complete picture, here's the 1st round across roughly the same period. Naturally and obviously, I found a much higher hit rate for the 1st round. I did 2004-2014, which (with a year added) corresponds to the years for my 2nd and 3rd round qb search. From 2004 to 2014, out of 31...

by  /zn/   Mar 29 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Sean Mannion Or Conner Cook?   Replies: 13   Views: 1440

Stranger wrote:Mannion's throwing motion is just bizarre to me. I say he never makes it (unless he goes thru a major re-tooling).


It is quirky. But then the ball comes out fairly quick anyway.

by  /zn/   Mar 29 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Sean Mannion Or Conner Cook?   Replies: 13   Views: 1440

I don't know how they'll have the QB's rated. But if they draft one in the first two rounds it tells me they blew the Mannion pick. And 3rd rounders are not like 6th and 7th rounders. Not as talented as 1st rounders but you can find potential starters. I think they need to crap or get off the pot. ...

by  /zn/   Mar 29 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Bonsignore: NFL Mock Draft with one month to go has Tunsil No. 1, Rams trading up   Replies: 68   Views: 5066

If the Rams had drafted Bortles, Bridgewater or Carr in 2012, i think there's an excellent chance we'd be talking about them being busts going into 2016... Yeah see I don't agree with that. I have a completely different view. I think what has hurt the offense more than anything else is injuries, mo...

by  /zn/   Mar 29 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Sean Mannion Or Conner Cook?   Replies: 13   Views: 1440

Interesting question. Could be an interesting discussion. Personally? I have no idea. 8-) Just in the abstract I would rather have both then just one of them though. Not that that answers your question.

by  /zn/   Mar 29 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Bonsignore: NFL Mock Draft with one month to go has Tunsil No. 1, Rams trading up   Replies: 68   Views: 5066

Whether or not a QB is a franchise QB depends as much on the franchise as it does the QB... Depends on what you mean. If you mean the qb is on a team that gets regular winning records, then, yeah, obviously the coach matters. But just in terms of the caliber of qb? I actually think it's the other w...

by  /zn/   Mar 29 2016   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: Bonsignore: NFL Mock Draft with one month to go has Tunsil No. 1, Rams trading up   Replies: 68   Views: 5066

None of which were considered the "cant miss" type prospect QB that Wentz/Goff are. All of them were reach picks which is where I see Lynch fitting in Few are considered "can't miss". Many are considered "can't resist...cause they might be great". Like Manziel and Grif...

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