by Hacksaw 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #11 "Eastern most in quality, western most in flavor, nothing makes a meal like Farmer John". err sorry wrong farmer. Good call on the cheap pub Elvis ,, lol , in contrast, Farmers cost Anchutz a few bucks for a hefty write off. And also interesting point BC about the dynamic between the league and the StL effort. The public comment of displeasure made by the league about the late timelines are a warning and a signal that they are losing ground. If they couldn't make the August timeline after all that amazing fast box checking early on, now it gives the appearance they might not actually be able to get it done. I remember many of us questioning the validity of so many of the task farce pressers back then.The owners read the papers and they know what's happening in StL. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #12 So, National is offering 7.9M per year, average over the life of the deal -- it starts lower.The article says that AT&T Stadium gets 17-19M per year.In 2010 economist John Vrooman estimated that AT&T Stadium pulls in $90M (that's ninety million or $90,000,000) per year in sponsorships and marketing -- I think I read his chart correctly. http://www.vanderbilt.edu/econ/faculty/ ... timate.pdfWhy the difference between Vrooman's 90M and the 17-19M quoted in the article? I'm pretty sure that part of the reason is because AT&T Stadium has more than just one sponsor. Here is a map of one level of AT&T stadium. See how many corp names you can spot:So, about that 7.9M offered by National, it's nice to have one sponsor, I guess, but, really, big whoop TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by moklerman 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #13 Elvis wrote:The Ripper wrote:Elvis wrote:It's a genius move by National Car Rental, all this free publicity that they'll never pay a dime for...Farmers did well with an estimated $ 6 mil in free advertising.Exactly. We're still saying Farmers Field...I still can't figure out how Sam Farmer swung that deal?!? by TSFH Fan 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #14 950k in estimated free pub:That brand exposure is worth an estimated $950,000 over the next 12 months, according to Apex Marketing Group Inc., which measures financial impact of social media and press coverage (which includes articles like this one). That’s without a stadium under construction, and without money changing hands.http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... adium-deal TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by Elvis 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 38463 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #15 TOPIC AUTHOR http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... adium-dealThe $950,000 Safety Net in National Car Rental's Stadium Dealby Eben Novy-Williams National Car Rental just positioned itself to reap nearly $1 million in marketing -- and it may not cost them a penny.National Car Rental this week announced a 20-year, $158 million commitment to put its name on a new football stadium in St. Louis, if -- and only if -- an NFL team remains in the city. The St. Louis Rams, owned by billionaire Stan Kroenke, are one of three NFL teams considering a move to Los Angeles, the country’s second-biggest media market. To try to persuade the Rams to stay, Missouri has proposed a new, 64,000-seat venue on the banks of the Mississippi river.A league-wide vote on whether to relocate a team, or teams, to Southern California, is expected early next year. Until then, though, the promised stadium will be referred to as National Car Rental Field. That brand exposure is worth an estimated $950,000 over the next 12 months, according to Apex Marketing Group Inc., which measures financial impact of social media and press coverage (which includes articles like this one). That’s without a stadium under construction, and without money changing hands.The St. Louis situation could end up similar to free advertising Farmers Insurance Group received by attaching its name to a $1.2 billion NFL stadium project in L.A. which was never built. Farmers reaped about $6 million in exposure in the four years between when it committed a reported $700 million for the naming rights and when Anschutz Entertainment Group announced the plan was dead.Pat Farrell, Chief Marketing Officer for St. Louis-based Enterprise Holdings Inc., National’s parent company, said that while he was aware of the unintended benefits reaped by Farmers, it wasn’t a factor in negotiating this deal."Free publicity in a short duration is not how we look at this," Farrell said in a telephone interview. "We want something that makes sense for the product from a long-term perspective. We also want our city to have the kind of major-league amenities that come with professional sports."Kroenke does not. He has purchased a 60-acre plot of land in Inglewood, California, for a stadium that would be the future home of the Rams. Neither his nor the joint proposal by the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers in Carson have naming rights agreements. RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #16 Somewhat related if any of you are Kings or Ducks fans and you get puzzled when they play a road game in St. Louis next season.Enterprise awarded naming rights of Blues arenahttp://fox2now.com/2018/05/21/enterpris ... ues-arena/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Apr 20 2024
by TSFH Fan 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #12 So, National is offering 7.9M per year, average over the life of the deal -- it starts lower.The article says that AT&T Stadium gets 17-19M per year.In 2010 economist John Vrooman estimated that AT&T Stadium pulls in $90M (that's ninety million or $90,000,000) per year in sponsorships and marketing -- I think I read his chart correctly. http://www.vanderbilt.edu/econ/faculty/ ... timate.pdfWhy the difference between Vrooman's 90M and the 17-19M quoted in the article? I'm pretty sure that part of the reason is because AT&T Stadium has more than just one sponsor. Here is a map of one level of AT&T stadium. See how many corp names you can spot:So, about that 7.9M offered by National, it's nice to have one sponsor, I guess, but, really, big whoop TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by moklerman 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #13 Elvis wrote:The Ripper wrote:Elvis wrote:It's a genius move by National Car Rental, all this free publicity that they'll never pay a dime for...Farmers did well with an estimated $ 6 mil in free advertising.Exactly. We're still saying Farmers Field...I still can't figure out how Sam Farmer swung that deal?!? by TSFH Fan 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #14 950k in estimated free pub:That brand exposure is worth an estimated $950,000 over the next 12 months, according to Apex Marketing Group Inc., which measures financial impact of social media and press coverage (which includes articles like this one). That’s without a stadium under construction, and without money changing hands.http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... adium-deal TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by Elvis 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 38463 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #15 TOPIC AUTHOR http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... adium-dealThe $950,000 Safety Net in National Car Rental's Stadium Dealby Eben Novy-Williams National Car Rental just positioned itself to reap nearly $1 million in marketing -- and it may not cost them a penny.National Car Rental this week announced a 20-year, $158 million commitment to put its name on a new football stadium in St. Louis, if -- and only if -- an NFL team remains in the city. The St. Louis Rams, owned by billionaire Stan Kroenke, are one of three NFL teams considering a move to Los Angeles, the country’s second-biggest media market. To try to persuade the Rams to stay, Missouri has proposed a new, 64,000-seat venue on the banks of the Mississippi river.A league-wide vote on whether to relocate a team, or teams, to Southern California, is expected early next year. Until then, though, the promised stadium will be referred to as National Car Rental Field. That brand exposure is worth an estimated $950,000 over the next 12 months, according to Apex Marketing Group Inc., which measures financial impact of social media and press coverage (which includes articles like this one). That’s without a stadium under construction, and without money changing hands.The St. Louis situation could end up similar to free advertising Farmers Insurance Group received by attaching its name to a $1.2 billion NFL stadium project in L.A. which was never built. Farmers reaped about $6 million in exposure in the four years between when it committed a reported $700 million for the naming rights and when Anschutz Entertainment Group announced the plan was dead.Pat Farrell, Chief Marketing Officer for St. Louis-based Enterprise Holdings Inc., National’s parent company, said that while he was aware of the unintended benefits reaped by Farmers, it wasn’t a factor in negotiating this deal."Free publicity in a short duration is not how we look at this," Farrell said in a telephone interview. "We want something that makes sense for the product from a long-term perspective. We also want our city to have the kind of major-league amenities that come with professional sports."Kroenke does not. He has purchased a 60-acre plot of land in Inglewood, California, for a stadium that would be the future home of the Rams. Neither his nor the joint proposal by the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers in Carson have naming rights agreements. RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #16 Somewhat related if any of you are Kings or Ducks fans and you get puzzled when they play a road game in St. Louis next season.Enterprise awarded naming rights of Blues arenahttp://fox2now.com/2018/05/21/enterpris ... ues-arena/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Apr 20 2024
by moklerman 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 7680 Joined: Apr 17 2015 Bakersfield, CA Hall of Fame Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #13 Elvis wrote:The Ripper wrote:Elvis wrote:It's a genius move by National Car Rental, all this free publicity that they'll never pay a dime for...Farmers did well with an estimated $ 6 mil in free advertising.Exactly. We're still saying Farmers Field...I still can't figure out how Sam Farmer swung that deal?!? by TSFH Fan 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #14 950k in estimated free pub:That brand exposure is worth an estimated $950,000 over the next 12 months, according to Apex Marketing Group Inc., which measures financial impact of social media and press coverage (which includes articles like this one). That’s without a stadium under construction, and without money changing hands.http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... adium-deal TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by Elvis 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 38463 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #15 TOPIC AUTHOR http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... adium-dealThe $950,000 Safety Net in National Car Rental's Stadium Dealby Eben Novy-Williams National Car Rental just positioned itself to reap nearly $1 million in marketing -- and it may not cost them a penny.National Car Rental this week announced a 20-year, $158 million commitment to put its name on a new football stadium in St. Louis, if -- and only if -- an NFL team remains in the city. The St. Louis Rams, owned by billionaire Stan Kroenke, are one of three NFL teams considering a move to Los Angeles, the country’s second-biggest media market. To try to persuade the Rams to stay, Missouri has proposed a new, 64,000-seat venue on the banks of the Mississippi river.A league-wide vote on whether to relocate a team, or teams, to Southern California, is expected early next year. Until then, though, the promised stadium will be referred to as National Car Rental Field. That brand exposure is worth an estimated $950,000 over the next 12 months, according to Apex Marketing Group Inc., which measures financial impact of social media and press coverage (which includes articles like this one). That’s without a stadium under construction, and without money changing hands.The St. Louis situation could end up similar to free advertising Farmers Insurance Group received by attaching its name to a $1.2 billion NFL stadium project in L.A. which was never built. Farmers reaped about $6 million in exposure in the four years between when it committed a reported $700 million for the naming rights and when Anschutz Entertainment Group announced the plan was dead.Pat Farrell, Chief Marketing Officer for St. Louis-based Enterprise Holdings Inc., National’s parent company, said that while he was aware of the unintended benefits reaped by Farmers, it wasn’t a factor in negotiating this deal."Free publicity in a short duration is not how we look at this," Farrell said in a telephone interview. "We want something that makes sense for the product from a long-term perspective. We also want our city to have the kind of major-league amenities that come with professional sports."Kroenke does not. He has purchased a 60-acre plot of land in Inglewood, California, for a stadium that would be the future home of the Rams. Neither his nor the joint proposal by the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers in Carson have naming rights agreements. RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #16 Somewhat related if any of you are Kings or Ducks fans and you get puzzled when they play a road game in St. Louis next season.Enterprise awarded naming rights of Blues arenahttp://fox2now.com/2018/05/21/enterpris ... ues-arena/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Apr 20 2024
by TSFH Fan 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #14 950k in estimated free pub:That brand exposure is worth an estimated $950,000 over the next 12 months, according to Apex Marketing Group Inc., which measures financial impact of social media and press coverage (which includes articles like this one). That’s without a stadium under construction, and without money changing hands.http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... adium-deal TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by Elvis 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 38463 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #15 TOPIC AUTHOR http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... adium-dealThe $950,000 Safety Net in National Car Rental's Stadium Dealby Eben Novy-Williams National Car Rental just positioned itself to reap nearly $1 million in marketing -- and it may not cost them a penny.National Car Rental this week announced a 20-year, $158 million commitment to put its name on a new football stadium in St. Louis, if -- and only if -- an NFL team remains in the city. The St. Louis Rams, owned by billionaire Stan Kroenke, are one of three NFL teams considering a move to Los Angeles, the country’s second-biggest media market. To try to persuade the Rams to stay, Missouri has proposed a new, 64,000-seat venue on the banks of the Mississippi river.A league-wide vote on whether to relocate a team, or teams, to Southern California, is expected early next year. Until then, though, the promised stadium will be referred to as National Car Rental Field. That brand exposure is worth an estimated $950,000 over the next 12 months, according to Apex Marketing Group Inc., which measures financial impact of social media and press coverage (which includes articles like this one). That’s without a stadium under construction, and without money changing hands.The St. Louis situation could end up similar to free advertising Farmers Insurance Group received by attaching its name to a $1.2 billion NFL stadium project in L.A. which was never built. Farmers reaped about $6 million in exposure in the four years between when it committed a reported $700 million for the naming rights and when Anschutz Entertainment Group announced the plan was dead.Pat Farrell, Chief Marketing Officer for St. Louis-based Enterprise Holdings Inc., National’s parent company, said that while he was aware of the unintended benefits reaped by Farmers, it wasn’t a factor in negotiating this deal."Free publicity in a short duration is not how we look at this," Farrell said in a telephone interview. "We want something that makes sense for the product from a long-term perspective. We also want our city to have the kind of major-league amenities that come with professional sports."Kroenke does not. He has purchased a 60-acre plot of land in Inglewood, California, for a stadium that would be the future home of the Rams. Neither his nor the joint proposal by the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers in Carson have naming rights agreements. RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #16 Somewhat related if any of you are Kings or Ducks fans and you get puzzled when they play a road game in St. Louis next season.Enterprise awarded naming rights of Blues arenahttp://fox2now.com/2018/05/21/enterpris ... ues-arena/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Apr 20 2024
by Elvis 8 years 6 months ago Total posts: 38463 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #15 TOPIC AUTHOR http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... adium-dealThe $950,000 Safety Net in National Car Rental's Stadium Dealby Eben Novy-Williams National Car Rental just positioned itself to reap nearly $1 million in marketing -- and it may not cost them a penny.National Car Rental this week announced a 20-year, $158 million commitment to put its name on a new football stadium in St. Louis, if -- and only if -- an NFL team remains in the city. The St. Louis Rams, owned by billionaire Stan Kroenke, are one of three NFL teams considering a move to Los Angeles, the country’s second-biggest media market. To try to persuade the Rams to stay, Missouri has proposed a new, 64,000-seat venue on the banks of the Mississippi river.A league-wide vote on whether to relocate a team, or teams, to Southern California, is expected early next year. Until then, though, the promised stadium will be referred to as National Car Rental Field. That brand exposure is worth an estimated $950,000 over the next 12 months, according to Apex Marketing Group Inc., which measures financial impact of social media and press coverage (which includes articles like this one). That’s without a stadium under construction, and without money changing hands.The St. Louis situation could end up similar to free advertising Farmers Insurance Group received by attaching its name to a $1.2 billion NFL stadium project in L.A. which was never built. Farmers reaped about $6 million in exposure in the four years between when it committed a reported $700 million for the naming rights and when Anschutz Entertainment Group announced the plan was dead.Pat Farrell, Chief Marketing Officer for St. Louis-based Enterprise Holdings Inc., National’s parent company, said that while he was aware of the unintended benefits reaped by Farmers, it wasn’t a factor in negotiating this deal."Free publicity in a short duration is not how we look at this," Farrell said in a telephone interview. "We want something that makes sense for the product from a long-term perspective. We also want our city to have the kind of major-league amenities that come with professional sports."Kroenke does not. He has purchased a 60-acre plot of land in Inglewood, California, for a stadium that would be the future home of the Rams. Neither his nor the joint proposal by the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers in Carson have naming rights agreements. RFU Season Ticket Holder by St. Loser Fan 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #16 Somewhat related if any of you are Kings or Ducks fans and you get puzzled when they play a road game in St. Louis next season.Enterprise awarded naming rights of Blues arenahttp://fox2now.com/2018/05/21/enterpris ... ues-arena/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Apr 20 2024
by St. Loser Fan 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 10511 Joined: May 31 2016 Saint Louis MO Hall of Fame Re: Can National Car's $158 Million Naming Rights Proposal Keep St. Louis Rams Local? POST #16 Somewhat related if any of you are Kings or Ducks fans and you get puzzled when they play a road game in St. Louis next season.Enterprise awarded naming rights of Blues arenahttp://fox2now.com/2018/05/21/enterpris ... ues-arena/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business